I'd really have to see the whole thing, I guess. At any rate, I'm with Birdsfan on censorship, though this is the self-imposed, voluntary variety. In other words, I would have no qualms if Disney released the movie in its entirety and am somewhat surprised it's bottled up like it is.

Yeah, I agree, you'd likely have to see the whole thing. I also agree about the release, or non-release of the movie. I just wish they would so I can buy it.

My feelings may be a bit off the beaten path,but I feel that censorship in and of itself is a form of rewriting history. I am a firm believer that a society that forgets it's history,no matter how painful it is, is doomed to repeat it.

Or maybe you have no point.... again.

Nah ... you just choose not to acknowledge them.

 

Now go back to making more mountains out of molehills.

Really? I'm six years younger than you and I've seen it at least twice. I'm shocked when I hear those older than me haven't seen it. It's a Disney classic.

 

So, you think it would be a teachable moment to release the movie in it's entirety?

 

I guess I'd have to watch the movie before making that call. On the Sounder issue, we were told that it would come up for a vote the next week and we were instructed to read it so as to be able to make an informed decision.

 

I suppose I missed a lot in my childhood. Among the Walt Disney classics that I've never seen to this day are Lady and the Tramp, The Sword in the Stone, Robin Hood, Dumbo, The Fox and the Hound, The Rescuers and Fantasia.

 

And to lay aside the perception that my parents had some sort of bizarre anti-Disney fixation, the first movie I ever saw - my dad took me to see it at a theater in Baltimore - was Pinnochio.

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I've never heard of it, so I can't comment. How does it compare to "Gone with the Wind?"

Gone with the Wind is a great movie. It is not racist either.

To me, this is outrageous. A movie is a form of artistic expression. Artistic expression should never be censored. Now before everyone goes all Maplethorpe on me: I don't think art that that might reasonably be seen as confrontational, or offensive should be shoved into our faces and public spaces. But it should be allowed to exist, and be accessible to anyone who chooses to be exposed to it. This movie should never have been chopped up or (even worse) buried under six feet of fear, misunderstanding, and political correctness gone mad.

I agree completely.

I'm old. I was a farm kid who went to town once a month and got to see a movie, eat, and buy groceries. I loved Song of the South. Uncle Remus was like a friendly grandfather. The music was great. Bambi, on the other hand, scared me and made me cry.

Nah ... you just choose not to acknowledge them.

 

Now go back to making more mountains out of molehills.

Nah, it's quite clear you have none. That's why you choose to follow me around with your little personal vendetta rather than to even attempt to discuss it like everyone else is. I'm sure everyone is growing quite tired of your little act.

 

If you paid attention, you'd realize this has been an argument for many, many years. I didn't start it, I didn't make it up. Why else do you think Disney hasn't released it? Look it up, a little information might go a long way for you.

My feelings may be a bit off the beaten path,but I feel that censorship in and of itself is a form of rewriting history. I am a firm believer that a society that forgets it's history,no matter how painful it is, is doomed to repeat it.

Good point. Do you feel the movie itself has racial overtones?

I guess I'd have to watch the movie before making that call. On the Sounder issue, we were told that it would come up for a vote the next week and we were instructed to read it so as to be able to make an informed decision.

 

I suppose I missed a lot in my childhood. Among the Walt Disney classics that I've never seen to this day are Lady and the Tramp, The Sword in the Stone, Robin Hood, Dumbo, The Fox and the Hound, The Rescuers and Fantasia.

 

And to lay aside the perception that my parents had some sort of bizarre anti-Disney fixation, the first movie I ever saw - my dad took me to see it at a theater in Baltimore - was Pinnochio.

True, I suppose you would have to watch it to make a decision. I think you can watch it on the web, but I'm not positive about that.

 

If you have grandchildren, that would be a good opportunity to watch all those great classics. If not, try to anyway, you won't be disappointed. Fantasia is one of my all time favorites. :thumb:

Gone with the Wind is a great movie. It is not racist either.

I totally agree, but there are many that think it is.

I guess I'd have to watch the movie before making that call. On the Sounder issue, we were told that it would come up for a vote the next week and we were instructed to read it so as to be able to make an informed decision.

 

I suppose I missed a lot in my childhood. Among the Walt Disney classics that I've never seen to this day are Lady and the Tramp, The Sword in the Stone, Robin Hood, Dumbo, The Fox and the Hound, The Rescuers and Fantasia.

 

And to lay aside the perception that my parents had some sort of bizarre anti-Disney fixation, the first movie I ever saw - my dad took me to see it at a theater in Baltimore - was Pinnochio.

 

The first movie my parents ever took me to see was 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. The second movie I ever saw as Blackbeard. I did see all the other Disney movies, because until I was about 14, we were only allowed 5 hours of TV a week, and the parents got to choose. 2 hours were the Sunday Disney movies 99% of the time. Other than that, our hours were allocated to the news and to Hee Haw. Well, there was an exception. On snow days my mom felt it necessary to ensure we didn't lose our academic edge and we got to watch KET shows for the hours we would have been in school. I loved summers at my grandparents, when we got to watch cartoons, Fright Night and such silliness.

 

As to Song of the South, I never thought of it as racist. I've heard the debate. Generally, though, I don't think of movies in such terms, just as I don't look for hidden meanings in music.

As to Song of the South, I never thought of it as racist. I've heard the debate. Generally, though, I don't think of movies in such terms, just as I don't look for hidden meanings in music.

I never did either, I'm surprised it's still a concern for Disney.

As to music, it depends on the band, some love hidden meanings. I agree most don't though.

True, I suppose you would have to watch it to make a decision. I think you can watch it on the web, but I'm not positive about that.

 

If you have grandchildren, that would be a good opportunity to watch all those great classics. If not, try to anyway, you won't be disappointed. Fantasia is one of my all time favorites. :thumb:

 

No grandchildren yet.

 

But papa's movie library includes the likes of 101 Dalmatians, Snow White, Bambi, Sleeping Beauty, Beauty and the Beast, Hercules, The Lion King, Robin Hood, The Prince of Egypt, A Bug's Life, James and the Giant Peach, Cinderella, Mulan (my daughter's favorite), Finding Nemo, Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Toy Story, The Little Mermaid, etc. So I'm hoping they won't be too deprived.:thumb:

 

I also saw The Sword in the Stone and Lady and the Tramp in there - I've just never watched them.

No grandchildren yet.

 

But papa's movie library includes the likes of 101 Dalmatians, Snow White, Bambi, Sleeping Beauty, Beauty and the Beast, Hercules, The Lion King, Robin Hood, The Prince of Egypt, A Bug's Life, James and the Giant Peach, Cinderella, Mulan (my daughter's favorite), Finding Nemo, Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Toy Story, The Little Mermaid, etc. So I'm hoping they won't be too deprived.:thumb:

 

I also saw The Sword in the Stone and Lady and the Tramp in there - I've just never watched them.

Good to see you're quite the Disney fan! Check out Fantasia, it's a remarkable film. The eight animated segments set to classical music selections are, in my opinion, awesome. But then again, I love just about everything Disney so I'm rather biased on the subject. :lol: