August 31, 201016 yr But because a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites whose undisguised contempt for the great unwashed prevents them from conceding a modicum of serious thought to those who dare oppose them. The irony here is that the very piece he writes is elitist in that he assumes liberals give no serious thought to the opposition, or the opposition's ideas. The fact of the matter is that there is no shortage of elitism on either side, and no shortage of obstructionists. He exhibits the very traits he assigns to liberals. I can understand the viewpoints he presents. I may not agree with them, but I can see the logic in his arguments. But then he had to go and write that last part, which is destined to create animosity and stubbornness on the very part of the "opposition". That's why nothing is ever resolved. On each side, instead of debating the issue and leaving it at that, we (all of us-regardless of our "side") stem out into hyperbole and generalizations. Very sad.
August 31, 201016 yr I thought you were a moderate. :walk: Apparently not according to the membership of BGP who are in charge of assigning one's label. :lol:
August 31, 201016 yr But then he had to go and write that last part, which is destined to create animosity and stubbornness on the very part of the "opposition". That's why nothing is ever resolved. The very fact that liberal democrats in Washington do not get what C.K. is spelling out clearly for them is validation of C.K.'s prediction of a comeuppance in November. The potential problem for Republicans is going to be whether they learned anything from their recent comeuppance.
August 31, 201016 yr The very fact that liberal democrats in Washington do not get what C.K. is spelling out clearly for them is validation of C.K.'s prediction of a comeuppance in November. The potential problem for Republicans is going to be whether they learned anything from their recent comeuppance. C'mon....it's not like they needed Krauthammer to spell it out for them. :lol: Even I can see what's coming without his help. I don't agree pretty much with anything he says. But, the enthused are most likely to vote. And Republicans will most likely be in the majority again soon. Then, they'll get nothing done and we'll be back to square one again. It's stupid, politics these days. Nothing gets done except the widening of rifts among the "little folk" (people like those of us with no real influence). For the record, I actually think Obama has done quite well so far, despite what everyone else says. I guess I'm one of those Independent voters still in his camp. A change in party majority in Congress won't change that. Maybe I just have the patience to see if the solutions enacted will work.
August 31, 201016 yr C'mon....it's not like they needed Krauthammer to spell it out for them. :lol: Even I can see what's coming without his help. I don't agree pretty much with anything he says. This is pretty much his point. The dems don't need anyone's help. They have it all figured out. They only need us to pay our taxes and trust them while they vote on bills they don't bother to read before they vote to make law. I can understand them not listening so some redneck from Kentucky, but to ignore one of the brighter political minds out there is at their own peril.
August 31, 201016 yr And Republicans will most likely be in the majority again soon. Then, they'll get nothing done and we'll be back to square one again. If you find that you've dug yourself into a hole, the first step is to STOP DIGGING. If they're (the congress) digging us deeper & deeper in a hole, I won't mind if the Republicans (conservatives) stop the digging.
August 31, 201016 yr This is pretty much his point. The dems don't need anyone's help. They have it all figured out. They only need us to pay our taxes and trust them while they vote on bills they don't bother to read before they vote to make law. I can understand them not listening so some redneck from Kentucky, but to ignore one of the brighter political minds out there is at their own peril. Where did you get any of that from what I posted? :confused: And it's not just the Democrats. You can NOT sit here and tell me that Republicans listen to rednecks in Kentucky any better than Democrats do.
September 1, 201016 yr Where did you get any of that from what I posted? :confused: And it's not just the Democrats. You can NOT sit here and tell me that Republicans listen to rednecks in Kentucky any better than Democrats do. I got it from your statement, "...it's not like they needed Krauthammer to spell it out for them." There are a lot of people trying to get the Dems attention and they are not listening. I'm not disputing your comment on the Republicans... but politicians in both parties had better start listening to the people who put them there or they will be nothing more than voters themselves.
September 1, 201016 yr For the record, I actually think Obama has done quite well so far, despite what everyone else says. I guess I'm one of those Independent voters still in his camp. A change in party majority in Congress won't change that. Maybe I just have the patience to see if the solutions enacted will work. In your opinion, if you don't mind, tell me in your POV, what Obama has done well as far as helping the people?
September 1, 201016 yr He is very intelligent. Does anybody know if something is wrong with him, and if so, how it happened? When I see him on TV-something is not right, but they are trying to disguise it. He was paralyzed in a diving accident while at Harvard Medical school. Despite this he graduated, he drives himself in a space age van, featured in Time Magazine. While many on this thread may blindly see him as a typical old conservative, you may be surprised, opposes death penalty, opposes torture with exceptions for times when immediate danger is present. When others may follow party lines he tends to grasp the overall picture and is not afraid to voice his opinion. He despite one of the greatest handicaps, became enormously successful in the great American Tradition, hard work. Perhaps the label someone gave him as elitist, should be changed to show what the human spirit can do, and recognized as such.
September 1, 201016 yr Apparently not according to the membership of BGP who are in charge of assigning one's label. :lol:But, didn't you just confirm those BGPers suspicions? :lol:
September 1, 201016 yr The questions I have for Mr. Krauthammer is that if Liberals have it all wrong and all conservatives are just principled people who are against debt, government intrusion and expansion of power, why then do they support government intrusion into marriage? Why were they so supportive of the patriot act and a new branch of government in the office of homeland security? Where were all the people marching in 3 cornered hats when President Bush and a Republican congress turned a budget surplus into a record deficit? If they are truly for less government intervention and protecting the constitution why are they wanting to repeal the 14th amendment and why the heck are they in support of denying people's 1st amendment rights in New York City? Just curious...:confused:
September 1, 201016 yr The questions I have for Mr. Krauthammer is that if Liberals have it all wrong and all conservatives are just principled people who are against debt, government intrusion and expansion of power, why then do they support government intrusion into marriage? Why were they so supportive of the patriot act and a new branch of government in the office of homeland security? Where were all the people marching in 3 cornered hats when President Bush and a Republican congress turned a budget surplus into a record deficit? If they are truly for less government intervention and protecting the constitution why are they wanting to repeal the 14th amendment and why the heck are they in support of denying people's 1st amendment rights in New York City? Just curious...:confused: I think you are confused by the Liberal and Conservative label vs. the Democrat and Republican label. Not all Republicans are conservative, just as not all Democrats are Liberals.
September 1, 201016 yr The questions I have for Mr. Krauthammer is that if Liberals have it all wrong and all conservatives are just principled people who are against debt, government intrusion and expansion of power, why then do they support government intrusion into marriage? Why were they so supportive of the patriot act and a new branch of government in the office of homeland security? Where were all the people marching in 3 cornered hats when President Bush and a Republican congress turned a budget surplus into a record deficit? If they are truly for less government intervention and protecting the constitution why are they wanting to repeal the 14th amendment and why the heck are they in support of denying people's 1st amendment rights in New York City? Just curious...:confused: This is a tired discussion...one of trying to paint the tea party as racist. Not many believe that. Unlike RM-I don't think Obama has done a good job, and the poll numbers are reflecting that. You can't just keep throwing money at problems hoping they go away. I am concerned that we are mortgaging our future with all of the debt we are incurring. Obama and the Dems spending is out of control.
September 1, 201016 yr This is a tired discussion...one of trying to paint the tea party as racist. Not many believe that. Unlike RM-I don't think Obama has done a good job, and the poll numbers are reflecting that. You can't just keep throwing money at problems hoping they go away. I am concerned that we are mortgaging our future with all of the debt we are incurring. Obama and the Dems spending is out of control. I didn't try to paint them as racist. I'm looking for someone to explain to me the inconsistancies in thier positions. I don't think it's racism, I think it's simple politics and hypocracy.
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