There were more hitters on steroids than pitchers.

 

Major leaguers have been quoted pitchers on their clubs were the main users.

My argument all along has been that roided up hitters are hitting against roided up pitchers. It's a wash and all records should count.

 

I'm trying to figure this out in my head. If records were set by hitters not on steroids batting against pitchers not on steroids, wouldn't a record only stand if a roided up hitter batted only against roided up pitchers? Otherwise, he would have had an advantage every time he batted against a clean pitcher. Wouldn't that mean all pitchers had to have been on steroids for it to even out? I wonder what percentage of pitchers were on steroids.

I'm trying to figure this out in my head. If records were set by hitters not on steroids batting against pitchers not on steroids, wouldn't a record only stand if a roided up hitter batted only against roided up pitchers? Otherwise, he would have had an advantage every time he batted against a clean pitcher. Wouldn't that mean all pitchers had to have been on steroids for it to even out? I wonder what percentage of pitchers were on steroids.

 

It means that the majority of players were on steroids during the "steroid era" and it's nearly impossible to decipher who was on something and who wasn't. Of course there are disadvantages to all the clean players but as more and more stories come out, with testimony from some of the players that I know played in the majors and minors, the number of clean players is dwindling.

 

The bolded is assuming every hitter was on steroids.

There were more hitters on steroids than pitchers.

No way of knowing, but most things I have heard are the reverse of what you said. Pitchers would pitch a day and must recover quickly to take back the mound. Steroids would aid in that process.

No way of knowing, but most things I have heard are the reverse of what you said. Pitchers would pitch a day and must recover quickly to take back the mound. Steroids would aid in that process.

 

I know there is no way of me know that, same as there is no way of knowing the other side of it as well. It seems more logical to me that hitters would use more because they play 162 games compared to a pitcher playing maybe 30-35 a season. I'm sure there were a lot of pitchers taking steroids but I feel like there were still probably more hitters that did.

No way of knowing, but most things I have heard are the reverse of what you said. Pitchers would pitch a day and must recover quickly to take back the mound. Steroids would aid in that process.

 

I know there is no way of me know that, same as there is no way of knowing the other side of it as well. It seems more logical to me that hitters would use more because they play 162 games compared to a pitcher playing maybe 30-35 a season. I'm sure there were a lot of pitchers taking steroids but I feel like there were still probably more hitters that did.

I know there is no way of me know that, same as there is no way of knowing the other side of it as well. It seems more logical to me that hitters would use more because they play 162 games compared to a pitcher playing maybe 30-35 a season. I'm sure there were a lot of pitchers taking steroids but I feel like there were still probably more hitters that did.

I always looked at it as each time a pitcher takes the mound, they are enduring a minor injury with their shoulders being sore and repetitively doing an unnatural movement. None-the-less, I believe steroids and HGH were rampant through baseball for about 25 years. So unless you take away every single person's numbers in that period, I am not sure of a fair way to throw out numbers of certain individuals. Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Clemens, etc. are just skimming the surface of how bad it got.

It is easy to say "more hitters were doing it" because of the polarizing figures of Arod, McGwire, and Bonds. It can very easily be used as the reason everyone hates them...I have given up caring who did and who didn't do it. I've moved on for sure.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that.

 

There are more hitters than pitchers.

The hitter still has to "HIT" the ball.

Here is my thought. People never really cared that much to begin with.

The hitter still has to "HIT" the ball.

 

Do you have any clue how much easier it is to hit a ball when the bat feels like a whiffle ball bat? Half of hitting a baseball at 90 mph + is getting the bat around, the other half is hand eye. No hitters can make it to the minors/majors without good hand eye coordination so the rest is taken care of with steroids. Adding 10 mph of bat speed with steroid is a HUGE advantage believe it or not.