I just noticed on ESPN today that A-Rod was sitting 2 homeruns shy of 600 but yet no one has a countdown tracker on him or all of this media like Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, etc. got when they played. Baseball has turned a corner and is heading in the right direction, minus a few details and a certain commish.

 

I could care less if he gets to 600 and I hope he doesn't pass 715.

I used to get riled up about steroids. I don't anymore and I think its simply because it seems to have been widespread. We only hear about the boppers but the consensus is that pitchers did as well so it doesn't get my dander up anymore.

I used to get riled up about steroids. I don't anymore and I think its simply because it seems to have been widespread. We only hear about the boppers but the consensus is that pitchers did as well so it doesn't get my dander up anymore.

 

I understand that and I feel the same way as you but I love seeing baseball moving in a different direction to separate itself from the steroid era.

Nobody cares about the roids and it was made into too big of a deal when it was all going on...

My argument all along has been that roided up hitters are hitting against roided up pitchers. It's a wash and all records should count.

My argument all along has been that roided up hitters are hitting against roided up pitchers. It's a wash and all records should count.

 

Disagree completely.

Disagree completely.

 

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I just noticed on ESPN today that A-Rod was sitting 2 homeruns shy of 600 but yet no one has a countdown tracker on him or all of this media like Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, etc. got when they played. Baseball has turned a corner and is heading in the right direction, minus a few details and a certain commish.

 

I could care less if he gets to 600 and I hope he doesn't pass 715.

I am not sure how it proves that baseball is heading in the right direction. Only thing it shows to me is that the homerun has been devalued so much that it is not as exciting to talk about as it once was. Maybe baseball is out of the steroid era, but I believe most are just immune to it all. I am not a fan of A-Rod the guy, but I think it is unfair for he and the minimal amount of guys which have been publicly outed to be the only pinatas in this fiasco.

 

How can you say you don't care when you started a thread about it?

My argument all along has been that roided up hitters are hitting against roided up pitchers. It's a wash and all records should count.

The records should count because there is not true way of knowing how much steroids effected hitters and batters, who all used, and what other substance should be deemed "PEDs".

This is a little off track but does have something to do with the "steroid era"....which by the way could be a term MLB coined to connote a time in the distant past, far removed from the present.

Anyway, it seems to me that you don't see those mammoth blasts in home runs any more. Back in the era, guys were regularly hitting 475' to 525' homers...and longer occasionally. Now if you see one 20 rows up, it stands out.

Is this due to the absence of steroids, better pitching, the ball being doctored up by MLB, or a combination of these?

Disagree completely.

 

Roger Clemens, Andy Pettite, etc.....

I wonder if you'll start seeing more and more players coming off major injuries take steroids to hasten the healing process much like Volquez did. IMO, it's brilliant if MLB is going to allow them to continue to serve the suspensions while hurt.

Roger Clemens, Andy Pettite, etc.....

 

There were more hitters on steroids than pitchers.

There were more hitters on steroids than pitchers.

 

You have absolutely no way of knowing that.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that.

 

No kidding. People think because Bonds, McGwire, Sosa...etc were rocked up that it must be the hitters because most pitchers didn't look that way. What they don't understand are the many different PED's that are available.

 

A friend of mine was a minor league pitcher and he swears that it was 1) worse in the minors and 2) worse with pitchers. Mainly because they haven't made it yet but with pitchers, recovery time was THE most important thing.