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Do you teach social studies???

 

World History (1500 to the present) - required

US History (Reconstruction to the present) - required

Third Social Studies Class - required

 

however, you must be sure that 5 strands are covered 1. US History - check, 2. World History - check, 3. Civics, 4. Geography, 5. Econ. Where you put 3,4 and 5 is up to you. Many schools do an integrated Social Studies course during their freshman year that combines those three.

 

Yes. And my district requires 1/2 credit of Political Science.

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I think it has been a long time since you have been in a high school social studies class. If a student chooses to take American Gov't there is no way around the discussion of Hamilton and the bank and why the US having debt (at that time) was good. And why he and Jefferson 'fought' over the power of the government - central or de-central.

 

True, but the part about deficit spending that was good wasn't due to the government providing social programs. It was to build a military, purchase more land and fund the army that was going to be necessary to settle it, and to build infastructure and interstate commerce.

True, but the part about deficit spending that was good wasn't due to the government providing social programs. It was to build a military, purchase more land and fund the army that was going to be necessary to settle it, and to build infastructure and interstate commerce.

Now come on Camel, don't let facts get in the way of a good liberal, socialist point.

True, but the part about deficit spending that was good wasn't due to the government providing social programs. It was to build a military, purchase more land and fund the army that was going to be necessary to settle it, and to build infastructure and interstate commerce.

 

Actually that is not true at all. Hamilton decided that the NEW government should take on the debt that had been incurred by the individual states during the Revolution. His notion was that as the Federal Gov't paid off that debt it would gain legitimacy with other world powers.

Now come on Camel, don't let facts get in the way of a good liberal, socialist point.

 

Camel, obviously didn't let 'facts' get in the way of anything.

 

Virginia, home of state rights man Thomas Jefferson paid off its own war debt by the way.

 

No liberal, socialist point being made - that is why I added, at that time, in my original post on the topic.

 

Just talking history.

Now come on Camel, don't let facts get in the way of a good liberal, socialist point.

 

And don't let an opportunity to toss around labels pass you by. It reminds me of this post by PepRock01 (I don't think anyone would mistakenly call HIM a liberal) in another thread:

 

This however illustrates why I don't post here as often as I used to anymore. As soon as you indicate a counterpoint even if the odds are good that the person you mention it to agrees with you on more things than not, you will be instantly branded as:

 

Liberal

Communist

Socialist

America-Hater

Lolly-gagger

 

Okay so I added the last one for kicks, but I hope I made my point.

 

It's why I took a P/R 'break' several weeks ago, too.

Camel, obviously didn't let 'facts' get in the way of anything.

 

Virginia, home of state rights man Thomas Jefferson paid off its own war debt by the way.

 

No liberal, socialist point being made - that is why I added, at that time, in my original post on the topic.

 

Just talking history.

 

And don't let an opportunity to toss around labels pass you by. It reminds me of this post by PepRock01 (I don't think anyone would mistakenly call HIM a liberal) in another thread:

 

 

 

It's why I took a P/R 'break' several weeks ago, too.

 

Sorry, I forgot to put the smilie face on there to let you know I was just playing and yanking the chain.

Actually that is not true at all. Hamilton decided that the NEW government should take on the debt that had been incurred by the individual states during the Revolution. His notion was that as the Federal Gov't paid off that debt it would gain legitimacy with other world powers.

 

You are correct, for part of his notion. He also felt that by war debt, establishing a national bank, and increasing deficit spending, the new government could centralize power at the federal level. Deficit spending had to occur at the federal level after the NW ordinance of 1787. There were going to be constant battles to be fought, and the navy had to basically be started from scratch. It also didn't take very long for commerce to be interrupted on the open seas by the British, and their naval dominance on the great lakes to become an issue. Hamilton, IMO, was correct. If you don't pay for things that are necessary to the entire nation at the federal level, you don't truly have a federal power. The constant question has been what is necessary?

Can you say political posturing?

 

Sure I can. That's what seems to be said a lot these days.:D

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