April 2, 201016 yr She. If you have something to add to the discussion, please do so. I knew it was "she" and I added what I wanted. Thanks for giving me permission.
April 2, 201016 yr It's called discussion. Roads signs, just like caloric information on food signs, aren't covered in the constitution. Why is using tax money on one permissible and one not? Because roads signs are there so everyone knows the rules. They are there to protect others from you, not you from yourself. If you're not smart enough to make your own eating decisions...calorie counts on menus aren't going to change you. It's the same as the difference between mandatory health care and mandatory car insurance. Mandatory car insurance is there to protect others from you not you from yourself. Liability is all that is required if you own your vehicle. You can destroy your own, but you have to pay if you destroy someone else's.
April 2, 201016 yr I knew it was "she" and I added what I wanted. Thanks for giving me permission. Then what is the purpose of saying he/she, unless it was designed to be purposefully rude? I don't see where you added anything to the discussion, besides making an assumption about me. Tell me, if the premise is that the constitution does not provide for things such as caloric information on restaurant signs AND that this is easily found using current technology (internet) before making a trip to said restaurant AND that it's a waste of taxpayers money as such...how do road signs differ? They are a) not provided for in the constitution, b) not needed due to current technology (GPS) and c) are, as such, a waste of taxpayers money, too.
April 2, 201016 yr This is simply not true. The assumption is that because something is a "salad" would mean that it is relatively healthy and low on calories. Often that is furthest from the truth . . . but you don't necessarily know that. Step away from the fast food counter for a little while. . . we eat there a lot and can probably figure out what is good or not, but what about Longhorns and Applebees and OCharleys. Am I to research their menu and then the calories before I go out to eat each time? Yes. Grow up. Be responsible for yourself. Stop expecting someone to take care of you. You don't have to research every menu, but you have to have a brain and understand what is and is not healthy for you. If you don't take the personal responsibility for yourself to pay attention on your own then all of the menus in the world can't help you.
April 2, 201016 yr Then what is the purpose of saying he/she, unless it was designed to be purposefully rude? Well, if you would quit taking everything so personally and think about it for a while, you would know that it is against the rules of BGP to give hints to a person's identity, and by saying "she", I would have in fact been giving a hint, so I used the non gender "She/he" as to be with in the rules. Not rude, appropriate. I don't see where you added anything to the discussion, besides making an assumption about me. Tell me, if the premise is that the constitution does not provide for things such as caloric information on restaurant signs AND that this is easily found using current technology (internet) before making a trip to said restaurant AND that it's a waste of taxpayers money as such...how do road signs differ? They are a) not provided for in the constitution, b) not needed due to current technology (GPS) and c) are, as such, a waste of taxpayers money, too. No assumption, just because I don't post much in the PandR doesn't mean that I don't read a lot in here and am pretty aware of your stances on some things. We know the answer to the question that you keep asking: no the constitution does not allow for road signs. Keep asking it, maybe it will change.:idunno: If you want the government to run everything, keep voting for them to do so, that's your right, oh wait, women didn't have the right to vote in the constitution either. But, thank some forward thinking people for changing that, maybe they will change the road sign thing too, or the menu thing, or the can't eat bad food thing, or the you have to exercise thing, heck we may not even need a constitution anymore. Cats and dogs sleeping together, total hysteria, that's it.
April 2, 201016 yr Dr. Peter Venkman: This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions. Mayor: What do you mean, "biblical"? Dr Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath of God type stuff. Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly. Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave! Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! Sorry Ram. Couldn't help it.
April 2, 201016 yr Dr. Peter Venkman: This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions. Mayor: What do you mean, "biblical"? Dr Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath of God type stuff. Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly. Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave! Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! Sorry Ram. Couldn't help it. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
April 2, 201016 yr Well, if you would quit taking everything so personally and think about it for a while, you would know that it is against the rules of BGP to give hints to a person's identity, and by saying "she", I would have in fact been giving a hint, so I used the non gender "She/he" as to be with in the rules. Not rude, appropriate. No assumption, just because I don't post much in the PandR doesn't mean that I don't read a lot in here and am pretty aware of your stances on some things. Hmmmm...you might want to read this thread, as I made it pretty clear that I am a female. http://www.bluegrasspreps.com/showthread.php?t=202703 We know the answer to the question that you keep asking: no the constitution does not allow for road signs. Keep asking it, maybe it will change.:idunno: If you want the government to run everything, keep voting for them to do so, that's your right, oh wait, women didn't have the right to vote in the constitution either. But, thank some forward thinking people for changing that, maybe they will change the road sign thing too, or the menu thing, or the can't eat bad food thing, or the you have to exercise thing, heck we may not even need a constitution anymore. Cats and dogs sleeping together, total hysteria, that's it. You prove my point beautifully and I appreciate it. :thumb: Just because the constitution does not specifically address something does not mean that the federal government shouldn't take care of it. Road signs are an excellent example. Requiring restaurants to list caloric information on their menus is another one, IMO.
April 2, 201016 yr Author Road signs are no longer a necessity with GPS. Also, the founding fathers didn't have road signs, did they?Not everyone owns GPS or can afford them and GPS doesn't always have the correct info, trust me, I know. :lol: They actually did have "road" signs. The earliest road signs were milestones, giving distance or direction; for example, the Romans erected stone columns throughout their empire giving the distance to Rome. Our founding fathers had their form.
April 2, 201016 yr Author This is simply not true. The assumption is that because something is a "salad" would mean that it is relatively healthy and low on calories. Often that is furthest from the truth . . . but you don't necessarily know that. Step away from the fast food counter for a little while. . . we eat there a lot and can probably figure out what is good or not, but what about Longhorns and Applebees and OCharleys. Am I to research their menu and then the calories before I go out to eat each time?If you don't know by now that salads are often fattening they you haven't been paying attention. Yes, you should research first if you're concerned. I know it sounds crazy to you but YOU should be responsible for yourself, not the government.
April 2, 201016 yr Author I have to laugh at all these people talking about how this will help them select items. My guess is very few people are going to look at these numbers, and even fewer will change their order based on what they read. Yet we all will bear the cost.Bingo! :thumb:
April 2, 201016 yr Author I don't see where you added anything to the discussion, besides making an assumption about me. Tell me, if the premise is that the constitution does not provide for things such as caloric information on restaurant signs AND that this is easily found using current technology (internet) before making a trip to said restaurant AND that it's a waste of taxpayers money as such...how do road signs differ? They are a) not provided for in the constitution, b) not needed due to current technology (GPS) and c) are, as such, a waste of taxpayers money, too.That day may come sooner than you think, but for now we still use road signs in tandem with personal navigation systems. One problem of GPS, however, is that personal navigation tools limit our ability to learn routes, they really do. That can be problematic if your GPS should suddenly go on the fritz.
April 2, 201016 yr Not everyone owns GPS or can afford them and GPS doesn't always have the correct info, trust me, I know. :lol: They actually did have "road" signs. The earliest road signs were milestones, giving distance or direction; for example, the Romans erected stone columns throughout their empire giving the distance to Rome. Our founding fathers had their form. Not everyone can afford a computer and internet to look up caloric information online at restaurant websites. The bottom line is that this is a very, very, very small issue, instead of the mountain that it being made out to be.
April 2, 201016 yr Author You prove my point beautifully and I appreciate it. :thumb: Just because the constitution does not specifically address something does not mean that the federal government shouldn't take care of it. Road signs are an excellent example. Requiring restaurants to list caloric information on their menus is another one, IMO.Road signs are NOT an excellent example, it's really apples to oranges. The mandate for nutrition boards is wasteful and stupid and will likely be problematic for many restaurants.
April 2, 201016 yr Author Not everyone can afford a computer and internet to look up caloric information online at restaurant websites. The bottom line is that this is a very, very, very small issue, instead of the mountain that it being made out to be. More "poor" own computers and internet than you think. For the ones that don't, that's where common sense comes into play. It's not being made out to be anything but a discussion.
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