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This hit a nerve.

 

Just wondering if any of you have noticed that some insurance salespeople think that the crowd comes to see them more than they come to see the actual claim? What are your opinions on this?

 

Just wondering if any of you have noticed that some doctors think that the crowd comes to see them more than they come to see the actual patient? What are your opinions on this?

 

Just wondering if any of you have noticed that some chemists think that the crowd comes to see them more than they come to see the actual lab experiment? What are your opinions on this?

 

The difference is the crowd. No one goes to watch a protology exam or a stirring arbitration hearing. It is basketball or football or whatever the sport-it is a spectator sport. And just like the players try to act like Lebron or Koby and the coaches act like Pitino and Calipari, the refs try to act like Burr and Hightower.

Funny you never hear Gino Auriemma or John Wooden complaining about referees.

 

Referees are there to provide a fair contest for all and penalize those who don't abide by the rules. Like doctors, insurance agents, and chemists, there may be some that get out of hand. But they do a thankless job for little or no pay, but love the game. But their few mistakes are right there for everyone to see. Give them a break- or invite them over to boo you in your job!

Sorry for venting.

 

Little or no money, if they had to do it for free how many of them would be refs? The refs have a job to do and some do it well but if your paid for a job and don't do it well you should not be allowed to do it. If I mess up at my job I am held accountable but what you bgpers are telling me is that refs don't have to be held to the same standards as every other working stiff. That my friends is total bunk.

Little or no money, if they had to do it for free how many of them would be refs? The refs have a job to do and some do it well but if your paid for a job and don't do it well you should not be allowed to do it. If I mess up at my job I am held accountable but what you bgpers are telling me is that refs don't have to be held to the same standards as every other working stiff. That my friends is total bunk.

 

How do you know that they don't do it well? What is your expertise in you deciding whether of not it is done well? If you mess up at your job you have someone that you work for or with and who knows your line of work determining that you messed up. Not someone from down the street at another place of business or someone who doesn't even know your job well enough to make an evaluation. The ref's that are getting regional games have been evaluated and rated by those they work with and for (the coaches). So apparently they are doing their job!

Sorry, but IMO it is the officials job to give the kids the fairest chance to compete and if they see an obvious mistake by one of their colleagues, I don't care where they're standing or what their responsibility is, they need to speak up!!

 

I can see leaving a foul call alone but this was a clock issue and I bet the other two guys knew the shot was good if they were paying any attention.

Please see quote about it not being their responsibility. If they WERE paying attention to the timing of the last shot they WERE NOT DOING THEIR JOB.

You cannot blame the officials period. You as a team, by not playing up to your potential or blowing a lead or a turnover here and there put the game in their hands to "blow it" for you. Look in the mirror, it is not their fault. I have all ways told the kids if you put it in someone else's hands it is your own fault.

AMEN

Please see quote about it not being their responsibility. If they WERE paying attention to the timing of the last shot they WERE NOT DOING THEIR JOB.

 

 

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How do you know that they don't do it well? What is your expertise in you deciding whether of not it is done well? If you mess up at your job you have someone that you work for or with and who knows your line of work determining that you messed up. Not someone from down the street at another place of business or someone who doesn't even know your job well enough to make an evaluation. The ref's that are getting regional games have been evaluated and rated by those they work with and for (the coaches). So apparently they are doing their job!

 

What qualifies you to say they have done well? I can tell you that my experience is almost 30 years involved with the game in one capacity or another. Don't question me because if you will notice to begin with this was not about bad or good officiating, it was about refs who think people come to watch them ref. Then some people took it off course with the bad call stuff. There are bad referees out there and if you say you have never questioned a call in your life or yelled at a ref then you and all who say they havn't should be inducted into the FSC.

Little or no money, if they had to do it for free how many of them would be refs? The refs have a job to do and some do it well but if your paid for a job and don't do it well you should not be allowed to do it. If I mess up at my job I am held accountable but what you bgpers are telling me is that refs don't have to be held to the same standards as every other working stiff. That my friends is total bunk.

 

What qualifies you to say they have done well? I can tell you that my experience is almost 30 years involved with the game in one capacity or another. Don't question me because if you will notice to begin with this was not about bad or good officiating, it was about refs who think people come to watch them ref. Then some people took it off course with the bad call stuff. There are bad referees out there and if you say you have never questioned a call in your life or yelled at a ref then you and all who say they havn't should be inducted into the FSC.

 

Didn't realize when you posted on here that people weren't allowed to question you. :confused: If you've been involved in one way or another for 30 years you may well be qualified, you didn't state that in your first post. Also no where in my post did I say they had done a good or bad job, I just said they are doing their job, you added the qualifiers.

Didn't realize when you posted on here that people weren't allowed to question you. :confused: If you've been involved in one way or another for 30 years you may well be qualified, you didn't state that in your first post. Also no where in my post did I say they had done a good or bad job, I just said they are doing their job, you added the qualifiers.

 

The last I looked you questioned me first am I not allowed to question you? Did anyone answer my question about would refs do it if they didn't get paid? It is easy to take up for most refs they do a great job, but the ones who showboat and act like the fans come to see them gives all refs a black eye. I wasn't just talking to you atm10 there are other posters on this thread. I qualified my statement by saying it was not about bad or good calls and you have clearly answered other post on this thread talking about certain calls being made. Did you answer my question about weather you or any other person on this thread has questioned a call out loud before? I notice that most of you have gone quiet on this point. Lets face it we are all hypocrits I started this because I was mad at a call and wanted to call to task the official who made the call. You guys getting on here and defending the officials from the Franklin Co. game are killing me. These guys blew it and you know it. I think that I have hit a nerve with a lot of officials on this thread and now you guys need to start another thread about the obnoxious fans or whoever that gets started about every 3 weeks.

Actually, and frankly more commonly, I think that there are far more parents who think we came to see them. Yelling like bafoons. Don't know the rules when they scream "over the back" amongst several other things.

 

I'm sure there are officials who are there to be the show. However, there are far more that do a fine job and are very even handed. Seems we don't give them enough credit. The threads bashing officials outnumber the ones that praise them 20 to 1. I suggest that some of you take the test, fit yourselves into some striped shirts and get your rumps out there and git-r-done.

 

I couldn't agree more, Doc! Let them put the shirt on and blast that whistle a few times and we will see just how many of them comment about stuff like this after trying it out!

Just wondering if any of you have noticed that some refs think that the crowd comes to see them ref more than they come to see the actual game? What is your opinions on this?

 

Actually, having had time to think about it some... I do not believe that any referee comes to the game with the intent of being in the spotlight and some underlying motive for / against a team. If they do, they will not be around for long. Having said that, it is part of the game that when that whistle blows you are drawing every eye in the gym to your spot. You interrupted the flow of the game by blasting that whistle. So naturally, all eyes are upon you. It has been my experience that on any given call, approximately half the crowd will disagree with you.

 

If you are brave enough to wear the striped shirts, black pants, whistle on lanyard... and look the part on the floor, you ought to be brave enough to take the criticisms that come with it.

The last I looked you questioned me first am I not allowed to question you? Did anyone answer my question about would refs do it if they didn't get paid?

 

I would.

Put in perspective that in the first game listed that your team didn't commit a turnover or miss a shot that didn't require the officials to count or not count the winning basket??

Little or no money, if they had to do it for free how many of them would be refs? The refs have a job to do and some do it well but if your paid for a job and don't do it well you should not be allowed to do it. If I mess up at my job I am held accountable but what you bgpers are telling me is that refs don't have to be held to the same standards as every other working stiff. That my friends is total bunk.

 

Wow, you ran into the wrong ref. I have donated my time for years to Special Olympics and we concluded the State basketball tournament this past weekend in Louisville. Yes I was paid- in smiles and appreciation from the players, coaches and fans but no dollars. It is a very rewarding experience and nothing is more valuable than a Class 2 Special Olympics player hugging you after you place his/her medal around his/her neck at the end.

Let me make this offer- I will officiate a Special Olympics basketball game next year with you and you can see that this profession is not about the money.

Why is it some fans/parents think that their yelling and screaming and showing themselves to be a horse's patootie is more important than the game?