March 16, 201016 yr That is the case. Regardless of who was right/wrong, I believe that the quicker then normal emergence of Lexington Catholic as a state powerhouse, initially in Boy's Basketball, but later emerging into almost every sport, set the public schools at unrest. Lexington Catholic had been a fledgling school in the 80's that was about to simply go under as class sizes sunk to 20 or less. Then suddenly they improved their facilities, added football to the mix, put a stronger focuse on their athletics then what was seen prior, and kids from the public school systems started to come more frequently. Now I won't comment on whether it happened or not but at some point the public schools felt certain athletes going to Lexington Catholic were contacted or assisted improperly in coming to the school and this set off the chain of events where by public schools quit scheduling Lex Cath. People can claim that the money issue a few years ago where former president Glaser was seen to have used improper funds to assist students of Lexington Catholic who had special financial needs is proof that Lexington Catholic broke the rules. I will go on record to say it doesn't look good, but I can attest that both athletes and non athletes recieved financial aid through that fund and some of the athletes involved had family issues, i.e. sudden death of a parent, house burns down, etc that would suggest an emergency need. However, I can also attest that over the past five years alone there has been proof in Lexington that the public school coaches have been just as guilty if not more of violating different rules in regards to contacting incoming freshmen athletes and also playing ineligible players. Simply put, neither side is right and neither side is totally wrong. The thing I can say about this action is that hopefully it will open up an avenue where both Lexington Catholic and the Fayette Co. schools can have a peaceful dialogue and co-exist athletically. Being a former Lexington Catholic athlete I can say that it was a disappointment in my four years at the school to never play a Fayette Co. school on the varsity level (I played football so different classes didn't allow for postseason play). Thanks UTB...seems like a pretty straight assessment of the whole situation. :thumb::thumb:
March 16, 201016 yr They don't pay if the kids get scholarships to go to private schools. I have no problem with it, but I'm sure there are a lot of great athletes at Trinity and St. X who are not catholic. They see a great opportunity at that school in athletics and I'm sure college athletic scholarship opportunities is a big reason a lot of students go to Trinity and St. X and LexCath. Who can blame them and their families really. Give me a break. NO kid gets an athletic scholarship. NO kid receives more than 50% total tuition aid to attend even if they AREN'T an athlete. Frankly, most kids receive much less than 50%.
March 16, 201016 yr Give me a break. NO kid gets an athletic scholarship. NO kid receives more than 50% total tuition aid to attend even if they AREN'T an athlete. Frankly, most kids receive much less than 50%. I'm sure kids don't get athletic scholarships, but I'm not so sure some private schools don't find ways to get some financial aid to good athletes. What I am saying is there is a whole lot of kids at Trinity, St. X, etc that are there for football, not the science program. And there is nothing wrong with that IMO. Its their choice, more power to them. Also kids go to certain public schools for the same reasons. As long as there isn't recruiting going on I think its fine.
March 16, 201016 yr I'm sure kids don't get athletic scholarships, but I'm not so sure some private schools don't find ways to get some financial aid to good athletes. What I am saying is there is a whole lot of kids at Trinity, St. X, etc that are there for football, not the science program. And there is nothing wrong with that IMO. Its their choice, more power to them. Also kids go to certain public schools for the same reasons. As long as there isn't recruiting going on I think its fine. To add to that, I'm sure many kids have attended Trinity or St. X because of football, but then have been greatly benefited (and perhaps chosen to further themselves in education) from things like the science program. As you said, I have no problem with anyone attending a private school because it has a good athletic program. Just as long as the coaches aren't out on the trail recruiting kids to come in.
March 17, 201016 yr Give me a break. NO kid gets an athletic scholarship. NO kid receives more than 50% total tuition aid to attend even if they AREN'T an athlete. Frankly, most kids receive much less than 50%. To your point, Rockmom, there should never be any concern about the 50% of the tuition fee allocated as a result of a financial aid program run entirely by a third-party source. This is all above board and easily verified. The cloudy area of true concern should be where is the true source of the remaining 50% (around $5,000/year) of tuition being derived. Is is being truly paid by the parents and close relatives, or is it coming from an alumni slush fund being shuttled to them for payment? It is in this area where all private schools must make sure that they have dotted their i's and crossed their t's to avoid problems going forward, especially where high profile public middle school athletes are concerned.
March 17, 201016 yr Do you really think someone would PAY to have their kids educated based on athletics alone? You can't be serious?
March 17, 201016 yr Give me a break. NO kid gets an athletic scholarship. NO kid receives more than 50% total tuition aid to attend even if they AREN'T an athlete. Frankly, most kids receive much less than 50%. They are not called scholarships anymore. They are "sponsors" or "sponsorships." Starts in the Catholic middle schools. It's not a secret or anything anyone tries to hide. Just ask them, they'll tell you.
March 18, 201016 yr Thats just two off hand. Thomas Sewell leading candidate for Mr. Basketball Kammerer middle. Seeing a pattern here. Of course JCPS is upset. These are top athletes that were going to public schools and and have no ties to Catholic education. No JCPS doesn't care about the Catholic/private kids coming to public schools. For one thats why Male, Manual, and Butler in my opinion was developed to attract the academically gifted private kids. Also you can argue that they can come to the public school for free and dont have to pay huge tuition fees. The perception in the eyes of public school supporters is that those athletes are attending those schools at no cost because they are great athletes. Proof or no proof that is the perception that fuels the fire. And when one of the private schools gets in trouble with the KHSAA the publics say see we told you so. If the bolded comment is saying that these students are attending T and/or X tuition free, then that is something that is an issue. Beyond free tuition, if these students choose to attend T or X, that is their choice. The public schools need to become as attractive to students as the privates.
March 23, 201016 yr I don't know if this has been talked about. I may have just missed it. But I have heard that Louisville public schools are not going to play Trinity and St. X at all next year. Is that true. And if this has been talked about I apologize for missing it.
March 23, 201016 yr I don't know if this has been talked about. I may have just missed it. But I have heard that Louisville public schools are not going to play Trinity and St. X at all next year. Is that true. And if this has been talked about I apologize for missing it. I don't think this is true. For the record, it's my understanding that at the varsity level, in order to be eligible for post season play, they must play their district opponents. At the JV level, there's no such requirement. And, from my experience, it's been a challenge to get some public schools to schedule JV or Frosh games with Trinity in football. I don't have much knowledge of other sports though. I'm pretty sure there's nothing to this but a rumor. There's much more at stake than just deciding not to play two schools.
March 23, 201016 yr I don't think this is true. For the record, it's my understanding that at the varsity level, in order to be eligible for post season play, they must play their district opponents. At the JV level, there's no such requirement. And, from my experience, it's been a challenge to get some public schools to schedule JV or Frosh games with Trinity in football. I don't have much knowledge of other sports though. I'm pretty sure there's nothing to this but a rumor. There's much more at stake than just deciding not to play two schools. A friend of mine told me about it the other day. He said that a coach from a louisville public school said they wouldn't playing those schools in bball at all next year.
March 23, 201016 yr A friend of mine told me about it the other day. He said that a coach from a louisville public school said they wouldn't playing those schools in bball at all next year. That's really funny. :lol: Trinity has been to the Sweet 16 once in 50 years, and I can't remember the last time X was there. Yeah...we're really killing them in basketball. :lol:
March 24, 201016 yr That's really funny. :lol: Trinity has been to the Sweet 16 once in 50 years, and I can't remember the last time X was there. Yeah...we're really killing them in basketball. :lol: It really surprised me too when I heard it. If its true that wasn't something I would expect, although Trinity has been attracting more bball talent lately. It seems like their coach does a great job.
March 24, 201016 yr It really surprised me too when I heard it. If its true that wasn't something I would expect, although Trinity has been attracting more bball talent lately. It seems like their coach does a great job. Coach Szabo is an EXCELLENT coach. But, seriously, look at our district/region. What are the publics afraid of? We have to compete against Ballard/Eastern/Seneca/Male/Manual/J-Town to say the least. It's not like any of those are slouches or lacking in talent, or the ability to draw talent. IMO, if the rumor is true, it has nothing at all to do with basketball.
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