I'm talking about the coaches in the public system getting some input here....Silberman hasn't been seen at a game in Lexington lately!!!

 

The coaches have had input for the past 10 years and nothing has happened so I'm guessing that Angelucci and Silberman felt that hose had been beat enough.

 

Unless Silberman is going to do the scheduling of games for each school, I would guess that the coaches will have say in scheduling a game with LexCath.

 

Just because it is now allowed, doesn't mean that all coaches will schedule them nor does it mean that LexCath will want to play all of them.

Great point, LBC

The bulk of the details of the agreement:

 

http://www.kentucky.com/813/story/1146814.html

 

1. Eighth-grader """play up""" rule: If a Fayette County area student plays a high school varsity sport as an eighth-grader then transfers from a Fayette County public school to Lexington Catholic, or vice versa, as a freshman, he or she will be ineligible in all sports (practice or games) at all levels for one full year.

 

2. Fayette County high school transfers: Any high school student who transfers from a Fayette County public school to Lexington Catholic, or vice versa, after the first day of enrollment their freshman year, or subsequent years, will be ineligible for all sports (practice and games) for one full year. (Possible exceptions: extenuating personal, family or financial circumstances may be submitted to the Athletics Oversight Committee for review and decision.)

 

3. Eighth-grade """transfer""" rule: Any entering freshman who has transferred after the eighth-grade from a Fayette County public middle school to Lexington Catholic, or from a Fayette County Catholic elementary school to a Fayette County public high school, will not be eligible to play any sport at the varsity level during their freshman year. (Rule No. 1 will affect students who """played up.""")

 

4. Fayette County High School Athletics Oversight Panel: A five-person panel will have a chairperson selected by Silberman and Angelucci. Fayette County's public schools and Lexington Catholic will each have two representatives, including a principal and athletics director. It will review and decide on transfer cases.

 

5. Guardian Letter of Acknowledgement: A legal guardian of all entering eighth-grade students and high school students who plan to participate in athletics at the high school level will be required to sign a letter acknowledging they are aware of the guidelines affecting their child's eligibility.

I think I can see a law suit from a parent since the KHSAA doesn't have a rule of this nature on it's books.

 

Seems it doesn't allow me if I lived in Lexington the same advantages of other regions in the Commonwealth to do the same thing they do in Boone, Kenton, Anderson, Elliott or any such County in Kentucky except Fayette!

 

If you have rules, they need to be the same in each and every region in the State!

Do these rules apply to LCA and Sayre too ? Can't have one set of rules for only LexCath and not for the other private schools there .

I think I can see a law suit from a parent since the KHSAA doesn't have a rule of this nature on it's books.

 

Seems it doesn't allow me if I lived in Lexington the same advantages of other regions in the Commonwealth to do the same thing they do in Boone, Kenton, Anderson, Elliott or any such County in Kentucky except Fayette!

 

If you have rules, they need to be the same in each and every region in the State!

 

KHSAA rules are considered the minimum standard. There is nothing that prevents to inclusion of additional rules and policies that go beyond KHSAA rules so long as they do not conflict KHSAA.

 

While the policies are coordinated they are the policies of individual institutions. If a player or parent has an issue the issue would be with the institution enforcing its own policy.

 

An example is that LC voluntarily and unilaterally adopted the eight-grade play up rule for a few years as part of an attempt to resolve the issue.

KHSAA rules are considered the minimum standard. There is nothing that prevents to inclusion of additional rules and policies that go beyond KHSAA rules so long as they do not conflict KHSAA.

 

While the policies are coordinated they are the policies of individual institutions. If a player or parent has an issue the issue would be with the institution enforcing its own policy.

 

An example is that LC voluntarily and unilaterally adopted the eight-grade play up rule for a few years as part of an attempt to resolve the issue.

 

As going on in the Highlands Mitchell thread, these rules while commendable will be challenged by some parent when it does not let them do what they want to do and file a legal challenge.

Do these rules apply to LCA and Sayre too ? Can't have one set of rules for only LexCath and not for the other private schools there .

 

Great question. Anyone got an answer here?

Do these rules apply to LCA and Sayre too ? Can't have one set of rules for only LexCath and not for the other private schools there .

 

See post above. The rules are enforced via policy at the institutions. Fayette Co., LC, LCA, Sayre all have individual athletic participation policies. It is up to each institution to set, review and manage those policies. An example is grade and attendance performance and how it impacts participation. That policy is not solely set by KHSAA and each institution may have a different policy in effect.

 

In the case of transfers or incoming students it makes sense to coordinate the policy accross institutions and communicate the policy so it is understood up front. But at the end of the day institution do not have a direct say in other institutions policies.

 

LCA adopted the rules of Prop 2 after it was sanctioned by KHSAA a few years ago. That was a unilateral policy modification. I am not sure if LCA and Sayre will adopt similiar policies. It would seem to make sense. However, since the 'schedule reduction' was an issue between Fayette Co. and LC there was a sense of urgency by these parties.

As going on in the Highlands Mitchell thread, these rules while commendable will be challenged by some parent when it does not let them do what they want to do and file a legal challenge.

 

That is a good point and one that is considered. But anyone can sue for anything at anytime. In that situation you have the conflict between two institutions (KY court and KHSAA). Hopefully, the courts would not get involved with an institution that is simply enforcing its own, self-imposed policy.

So now kids who attend a private grade school and whose parents decide to opt to take advantage of the public education that their parents tax dollars help support will not be allowed to play varsity sports for a year???

 

I have no problem with applying the transfer rule to 8th graders who played varsity sports but to unilaterally penalize even kids who didn't play sports in bogus. The president at LexCath should be ashamed for agreeing to it.

So now kids who attend a private grade school and whose parents decide to opt to take advantage of the public education that their parents tax dollars help support will not be allowed to play varsity sports for a year???

 

I have no problem with applying the transfer rule to 8th graders who played varsity sports but to unilaterally penalize even kids who didn't play sports in bogus. The president at LexCath should be ashamed for agreeing to it.

 

Unlike Prop 2, kids who 'switch feeder systems' between 8th and 9th grade still are eligible to be on on the team, practice, meet new friends, etc. i.e. they are able to participate. Thy only are restricted from playing in varsity contests. They can still play in freshman games and JV games. Remember, Prop 2 had a 2 year ban on playing any sports at any level (varsity, JV or freshman) - essentially killing any thought of participation in sports in high school.

 

If a kid has not played a sport until they are a freshman then they will not likely play much, if any, in a full varsity contests anyway. But they will have the opportunity to learn the game, participate in practice and integrate into a new school through sports.

 

I have already run into a few conversations where #3 above is incorrectly interpreted as kids are prevented from playing sports as freshman. That is not the case. It is only participation in varsity level games that is restricted. This is not ideal but the actual impact will likely be almost nil. It also preserves the participation aspect.

But what if they had played a sport and were good enough to play varsity? You're taking that opportunity away from then and I would suspect it's a whole lot more going from private to public rather then vice versa. Kids should not be penalized in any way for exercising their right to choose a school and to take advantage of ALL activities at that school.

 

The more I think about it the more I feel like LexCath caved.

Unlike Prop 2, kids who 'switch feeder systems' between 8th and 9th grade still are eligible to be on on the team, practice, meet new friends, etc. i.e. they are able to participate. Thy only are restricted from playing in varsity contests. They can still play in freshman games and JV games. Remember, Prop 2 had a 2 year ban on playing any sports at any level (varsity, JV or freshman) - essentially killing any thought of participation in sports in high school.

 

If a kid has not played a sport until they are a freshman then they will not likely play much, if any, in a full varsity contests anyway. But they will have the opportunity to learn the game, participate in practice and integrate into a new school through sports.

 

I have already run into a few conversations where #3 above is incorrectly interpreted as kids are prevented from playing sports as freshman. That is not the case. It is only participation in varsity level games that is restricted. This is not ideal but the actual impact will likely be almost nil. It also preserves the participation aspect.

 

Per the KHSAA, a 8th grader is not allowed to play football nor soccer! So that kid is being penalized big time for changing schools even though he/she couldn't play varsity in those sports!

 

I can btw off the top of my head think of plenty of kids who as freshmen started varsity soccer and I know of one who started varsity football, as a freshmen!

 

You do realize that all this has done now, is to make the parents move their child prior to the 8th grade and when that happens a lot (and it will), then of course the rule will change to the 7th grade, then the 6th grade, until it's at birth, that the parents must choose a school to attend. :idunno:

 

Of course, all of this is being done for the betterment, of the individual student, correct?

There are a lot of talented 8th graders in Lexington this season. It would appear that nearby Scott county could greatly benefit from this rule or perhaps a lot of parents may keep their sons and daughters at their present schools. It is always interesting to see what the summer months bring.