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Where Are the Fans?

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I agree also, want to add one, anyone heard of the "MALL", free to get in, weathers always good, decent parking and whole lot of socializing goes on there, and a lot of concession stands to chose from there for food. Good hours to.

This is more reflected toward the student aspect of the conversation.

 

Yeah, there are malls in every single county in Kentucky. That has to be it. :rolleyes:

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I'm not being a jerk when I say your questions are irrelevant to the issue. The move to allow girls to play in "prime time" had nothing to do with dollars. Most schools do not have their boys play on Friday nights if their girls are playing on Friday.

 

I'm going to have to question your use of "most" here. Or, I would at least contend that you're only looking at things in the NoKy area, where transportation really isn't an issue since the NoKy teams as a whole rarely venture out of the Boone/Kenton/Campbell area.

 

Since the big spike in gas prices a few years ago, most of the games I go to are boys/girls doubleheaders. And no, I don't just go to them when it is a "more bang for the buck" situation; that's just how the local schedules play out.

 

I have had players and coaches from girls' teams tell me that switching from the traditional Tuesday/Friday boys and Monday/Thursday girls format to more doubleheaders has not always been a good thing, especially on nights when the boys game is first. Nothing feels so good as looking up in the crowd when you're playing and watching 3/4 of the people file out of the gym by the end of the first quarter.

At the 10th Region Tournament this year at Mason Co., the first round consists of two sessions (two games each session) and admission will be $7 per person.

 

The semi-finals will be split sessions and will cost $5 per person, as will the finals.

I personally think there are several reasons why attendance is down, as well as the over all excitement of High School Basketball. For one thing, with kids playing basketball year round, there are so many more opportunities for family and friends to go watch johnny or sue play. It used to be where high school games were the only time grandma and grandpa would be able to watch. Now they have so many more games to choose from. I also think that AAU in so many people minds, players, coaches, etc. has replaced High School ball as the place to play and showcase skills. Kids do not get as excited to play for their high school teams as they used to. It does not seem to be as big of honor to play for the high school as it used to.

 

I also do not think kids in general have the same school spirit as they used to. Kids now transfer to other schools, and attend schools that are 'out of district' now much more than they used to. Used to be kids from certain areas went to certain schools more, now kids choose schools to go to for so many more reasons. Kids do not know each other as well as they used to.

I personally think there are several reasons why attendance is down, as well as the over all excitement of High School Basketball. For one thing, with kids playing basketball year round, there are so many more opportunities for family and friends to go watch johnny or sue play. It used to be where high school games were the only time grandma and grandpa would be able to watch. Now they have so many more games to choose from. I also think that AAU in so many people minds, players, coaches, etc. has replaced High School ball as the place to play and showcase skills. Kids do not get as excited to play for their high school teams as they used to. It does not seem to be as big of honor to play for the high school as it used to.

 

I also do not think kids in general have the same school spirit as they used to. Kids now transfer to other schools, and attend schools that are 'out of district' now much more than they used to. Used to be kids from certain areas went to certain schools more, now kids choose schools to go to for so many more reasons. Kids do not know each other as well as they used to.

 

That may be the case for legit college-bound players, but most kids are smart enough to recognize that their parents' idyllic visions of Little Johnny starting as the 5-6 PG for the UK Wildcats is a fantasy. Plus, how many AAU games are played before anything more than a handful of people? AAU is in no way, shape or form the reason. Most kids recognize that the only time they'll play in front of a packed gym or arena is during their HS days.

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For one thing, with kids playing basketball year round, there are so many more opportunities for family and friends to go watch johnny or sue play. It used to be where high school games were the only time grandma and grandpa would be able to watch. Now they have so many more games to choose from. I also think that AAU in so many people minds, players, coaches, etc. has replaced High School ball as the place to play and showcase skills. Kids do not get as excited to play for their high school teams as they used to. It does not seem to be as big of honor to play for the high school as it used to.

 

I also do not think kids in general have the same school spirit as they used to. Kids now transfer to other schools, and attend schools that are 'out of district' now much more than they used to. Used to be kids from certain areas went to certain schools more, now kids choose schools to go to for so many more reasons. Kids do not know each other as well as they used to.

 

That may be the case for legit college-bound players, but most kids are smart enough to recognize that their parents' idyllic visions of Little Johnny starting as the 5-6 PG for the UK Wildcats is a fantasy. Plus, how many AAU games are played before anything more than a handful of people? AAU is in no way, shape or form the reason. Most kids recognize that the only time they'll play in front of a packed gym or arena is during their HS days.

 

Louie, I told my friend the same thing the other night. So many games now that its "just another game."

 

Jim, I think you're giving kids and their parents too much credit.

That may be the case for legit college-bound players, but most kids are smart enough to recognize that their parents' idyllic visions of Little Johnny starting as the 5-6 PG for the UK Wildcats is a fantasy. Plus, how many AAU games are played before anything more than a handful of people? AAU is in no way, shape or form the reason. Most kids recognize that the only time they'll play in front of a packed gym or arena is during their HS days.

 

I disagree about the kids and parents being smart enough, or maybe they just don't want to accept it. Just look at what people write on here. I mean, based on what the experts think here, The 9th region alone has more kids who can play college ball than there are college teams for them to play on! :D

Nothing feels so good as looking up in the crowd when you're playing and watching 3/4 of the people file out of the gym by the end of the first quarter.

 

I think its funny. It proves that Title IX is a joke.

BTW I went to the /bellevue game tonight. The lady in front of me had to pay five dollars for her six year old boy who colored the whole time.

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I think its funny. It proves that Title IX is a joke.

 

Title IX has done a lot to give girls the chance to participate in high school sports at the same level as the boys. Prior to it schools treated girls' sports as nothing more than intramurals. Many (and I'm going to assume you fall into this group) do not like it because it has affected some boys teams. Too bad. If schools have to make tough decisions in order to treat the girls' teams equally then , again, too bad for the boys.

 

So, Preachit, tell me why you think Title IX is a joke.

To me the main reason is that the games used to be a social event and now with all the social networking being done by texting, facebook, etc. the games have become irrelevant as a social event. This is true in all aspects of modern life, not just high school games.

I think its funny. It proves that Title IX is a joke.

BTW I went to the /bellevue game tonight. The lady in front of me had to pay five dollars for her six year old boy who colored the whole time.

 

Ouch... Last I checked it was 2010. :ohbrother:

I think its funny. It proves that Title IX is a joke.

 

Preachit, I'd like to hear your reasoning why you think it's a joke?

Louie, I told my friend the same thing the other night. So many games now that its "just another game."

 

Jim, I think you're giving kids and their parents too much credit.

 

I disagree about the kids and parents being smart enough, or maybe they just don't want to accept it. Just look at what people write on here. I mean, based on what the experts think here, The 9th region alone has more kids who can play college ball than there are college teams for them to play on! :D

 

I wasn't talking about the parents. Just the kids. I talk to a lot of kids and you'd be surprised at the number of realists out there.

Before I say this, I am not promoting sexism, racism, or any kind of bigotry. I am very well aware of the history in the USA, but...

 

If a governing body has to change rules in order to force an undesirable level of equity between girls sports and boys sports, and the overall feeling in both of those circles feel it is unnecessary, then the premise is ridiculous.

 

Do you realize that if the boys raise ten thousand dollars and the girls raise four thousand dollars, then the boys have to give the girls three thousand dollars so that it is equal.

 

A fan cannot donate a new dry erase board in the boys locker room unless he agrees to donate a new erase board in the girls locker room.

 

A few years ago in the 8th region a fan wanted to donate new lights on the football field. The lights went up and then had to come down because the soccer field did not recieve new lights.

 

When I was playing a few years ago the freshman couldn't wear new uniforms even though the ones they had were ten years old and falling apart. However the freshman girls showed up wearing new warmups with their name stitched on the back.

 

Title IX may have good intentions but they've become counter-productive and relatively comical.

Reading through this thread I honestly think there are 2 main problems.

 

1 - School administrations charging more than $4 and $2 to get into games and charging anyone under 5 yrs of age are idiots. PERIOD.

 

 

2 - The changing of traditional schedules has hurt boys and girls.

 

 

The last thing goes along with #1. Teams travel to a lot more Christmas Tournaments and travel across the state more, which is good and bad. Good for competition. Bad for fans. So they increase the price of tickets of the few home games they have.

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