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Will Notre Dame win a title?

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Possibly Notre Dame's last 20 years of mediocrity?

 

:lol:Ya It's more like 15 but i guess your right. This does concern me but Weis got to two BCS games so I think Kelly can do win, but maybe I'm blinded by my love for ND.:idunno:

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He won't be able to get the same type of players into Notre Dame as he did Cincy for starters.

 

Lame excuse. Notre Dame has always had high standards and still brings in high profile players. They bring top 15 recruiting classes every year.

:lol:Ya It's more like 15 but i guess your right. This does concern me but Weis got to two BCS games so I think Kelly can do win, but maybe I'm blinded by my love for ND.:idunno:

 

Well, they have won one bowl game in the past 17 years (maybe only 16) and that was last season when they beat Hawaii.

Lame excuse. Notre Dame has always had high standards and still brings in high profile players. They bring top 15 recruiting classes every year.

 

If that were the truth they would not be where they are now.

The classes they bring in are always over rated.

Those players go from being a three star player to a 4 star player just because of where they sign.

 

When they get on the field the truth comes out.

 

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Well, they have won one bowl game in the past 17 years (maybe only 16) and that was last season when they beat Hawaii.

 

Ya but how many great coaches have they have?

 

Ty went on to UW where he proved how awful he is.

 

Davie and Weis had no previous head coaching expeirence.

 

If Kelly does fail you must look at the program not the coach.

If that were the truth they would not be where they are now.

The classes they bring in are always over rated.

Those players go from being a three star player to a 4 star player just because of where they sign.

 

When they get on the field the truth comes out.

 

:deadhorse:

 

Oh like Jimmy Claussen who will be a top ten recruit, Kyle Rudolph one of if not the top TEs in the nation. Golden Tate and Micheal Floyd seemed to pan out too. Plus BK is known for developing players. Weis' inability to develop talent is one of the reasons for his downfall.

Time will tell but I do not see things changing for them unless they down grade the schedule again.

Time will tell but I do not see things changing for them unless they down grade the schedule again.

 

No and no. Those guys have proven they were worth their ratings, they don't need to prove it in the NFL. Second the schedule is not getting down graded, if anything BK has mentioned adding in teams like Texas every year. I know they play Oklahoma and LSU in coming years too.

So they have had all these top 15 classes and you say they have provened it on the field then why are they as bad as they are year in and year out?

 

They are not close to a top 15 team.

Oh like Jimmy Claussen who will be a top ten recruit, Kyle Rudolph one of if not the top TEs in the nation. Golden Tate and Micheal Floyd seemed to pan out too. Plus BK is known for developing players. Weis' inability to develop talent is one of the reasons for his downfall.

 

All of those guys have been good, where is the defense?

So they have had all these top 15 classes and you say they have provened it on the field then why are they as bad as they are year in and year out?

 

They are not close to a top 15 team.

 

I was simply saying that Jimmy, Rudolph, Floyd, and Tate all are the real deal. Thats who Goldendomer referred to.

 

They need big time defensive recruits. They need to win with a smash mouth defense like in the Lou Holtz days. Tony Rice was no Jimmy Clausen, not even close. But he was one of the winningest QB's all time for the Irish because he had a great defense and a guy named Rocket.

Just shows offense isn't everything. I am hoping BK and his staff develop some of the defensive players they already have and bring in some big guys.

ND also brought in plenty of defensive players that were rated very high. So, let's not act like these rankings are everything.

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