Who writes anymore? LOL

 

I type and text...seriously. I had to write out a description of something the other day and it was ticking me off and making my hand cramp.

So what's wrong with being able to read cursive as well? Dumbing down of America...

 

Standards change. It used to be, in order to be considered educated, that you had to know Latin. Who amongst us knows Latin? :idunno:

So what's wrong with being able to read cursive as well? Dumbing down of America...

 

There are several in the older generations who have no clue how to use a computer, and even more that can, but I could run a marathon faster than they could send an e-mail. There is simply a technological shift going on right now.

 

Do you know how to read hieroglyphics? Well, you all must be uneducated and dumbed down according to many of your arguments.

 

Times change and ways of communication change. No one really needs cursive anymore. Trying to say, "Well what about those who want to read the Declaration of Independence (or some other document in cursive)?"

 

GUESS WHAT...and I know this might be a shocker to some of you all, but there is a PRINT version of it in school textbooks and ON....LINE! :eek:

 

Again, reading and writing in cursive is about as useful these days as reading or writing hieroglyphics, or as someone else mentioned, learning to speak, read, write Latin.

There are several in the older generations who have no clue how to use a computer, and even more that can, but I could run a marathon faster than they could send an e-mail. There is simply a technological shift going on right now.

 

Do you know how to read hieroglyphics? Well, you all must be uneducated and dumbed down according to many of your arguments.

 

Times change and ways of communication change. No one really needs cursive anymore. Trying to say, "Well what about those who want to read the Declaration of Independence (or some other document in cursive)?"

 

GUESS WHAT...and I know this might be a shocker to some of you all, but there is a PRINT version of it in school textbooks and ON....LINE! :eek:

 

Again, reading and writing in cursive is about as useful these days as reading or writing hieroglyphics, or as someone else mentioned, learning to speak, read, write Latin.

Bad argument on your part. Are hieroglyphics in English? Let me answer that for you. NO.

 

As to the rest of your post, I strongly disagree with you that there is no use for cursive writing. Here's why:

 

• Cursive writing is very benificial for left-handed children. In print, the left-handed child proceeds to write printing from left to right but will cover what he has written with his arms. This is called the hook position. In cursive writing, the left-handed child learns to write from bottom up and turns the paper clockwise causing great comfort and legibility.

 

• It enforces the skills for patterns in reading and writing. Unlike print writing, lower case cursive writing starts from the same beginning point. In print, various letter start from the top, down, middle and many different positions . Letter inversions and reversals are eliminated.
  

 

• In cursive, children learn to spell correctly since hand movements create some muscle memory that retains the spelling patterns. Cursive handwriting reduces errors because of the continuous flow of writing. In print, the child picks up the pencil from the paper to start a new letter in a word, thus the potential for mistakes is higher.

 

• Cursive prevents erratic spaces between letters and words. In cursive, the flow of writing moves from left to right. It teaches spatial discipline. In print, the child's handwritings are difficult to discern. The spaces between words are so tight. It is hard to tell where the words begin and end.
  

 

• Mastery of cursive will be to the advantage of any student in the long-run. The child will be able to write faster. The student can get his or her ideas on paper quicker. It can also be advantageous in taking notes from lectures.

Standards change. It used to be, in order to be considered educated, that you had to know Latin. Who amongst us knows Latin? :idunno:

Again, Latin isn't English, cursive is in English.

Cursive writing is faster. You do not have to lift your pen off the paper. Note taking in college is hard enough. Keep on doing it in print and you will miss half of the notes!

Cursive writing is faster. You do not have to lift your pen off the paper. Note taking in college is hard enough. Keep on doing it in print and you will miss half of the notes!

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Cursive writing is faster. You do not have to lift your pen off the paper. Note taking in college is hard enough. Keep on doing it in print and you will miss half of the notes!

 

I totally agree with this. I remember trying to print my notes so I could copy them for a friend that was absent, and I had to give up. I was missing half the info! This happened more than one time in college.

Bad argument on your part. Are hieroglyphics in English? Let me answer that for you. NO.

 

As to the rest of your post, I strongly disagree with you that there is no use for cursive writing. Here's why:

 

• Cursive writing is very benificial for left-handed children. In print, the left-handed child proceeds to write printing from left to right but will cover what he has written with his arms. This is called the hook position. In cursive writing, the left-handed child learns to write from bottom up and turns the paper clockwise causing great comfort and legibility.

 

• It enforces the skills for patterns in reading and writing. Unlike print writing, lower case cursive writing starts from the same beginning point. In print, various letter start from the top, down, middle and many different positions . Letter inversions and reversals are eliminated.
  

 

• In cursive, children learn to spell correctly since hand movements create some muscle memory that retains the spelling patterns. Cursive handwriting reduces errors because of the continuous flow of writing. In print, the child picks up the pencil from the paper to start a new letter in a word, thus the potential for mistakes is higher.

 

• Cursive prevents erratic spaces between letters and words. In cursive, the flow of writing moves from left to right. It teaches spatial discipline. In print, the child's handwritings are difficult to discern. The spaces between words are so tight. It is hard to tell where the words begin and end.
  

 

• Mastery of cursive will be to the advantage of any student in the long-run. The child will be able to write faster. The student can get his or her ideas on paper quicker. It can also be advantageous in taking notes from lectures.

 

With the widespread use of computers nowadays, and surely more so in the future, the emphasis should be more on typing than writing.

 

It's much faster to type than to write, whether it be in cursive or print. Talking about taking notes, I write all of my notes in print and haven't had any trouble with that. If I wanted to, I could also take my laptop to class and type my notes. Usually though, most of my professors make their notes or slides available to download, print, and bring to class.

 

As for writing in the workplace, I don't think I've ever had a job where I had to write anything (other than writing notes on post-its or writing my initials on my soda can so that "Bob" doesn't steal it from the fridge). Sure there were minor things that writing was used for, but as for the bulk of the actual work, it's done via computers.

 

Worked as a CSR for a telephone company, everything was done via computer. Worked for a library at UK, everything was done via computer. Worked as a CSR for Nextel/Sprint, everything done via computer including job application and testing. Worked as an office manager for a telephone company, everything was done via computer. Work at Enterprise Rent-a-Car, again, everything done via computer including the job application.

 

I'm not saying that we should ban writing print or cursive, but the need for cursive is dying. We need to emphasize typing more in schools and that will take away from something else. We need to know how to read and write print, because hey, that's what the computers use. Unless you want a mass revolution where everything on the computer is done in some kind of cursive font, then there's going to be no use for it in the future.

Edited November 15, 200916 yr by Aiden Seamus

I totally agree with this. I remember trying to print my notes so I could copy them for a friend that was absent, and I had to give up. I was missing half the info! This happened more than one time in college.

 

Typing is faster than both!

Yes, if you don't want to give everyone the impression that you're a simpleton. Your penmanship speaks volumes about you when you're not there to speak for yourself.

 

That's one persons opinion. I can sign my name and that's the only cursive I'll ever need to know. People that don't know cursive can either simply print their names or make some lines in the shape of letters and pretend its cursive...that's what most people do anyway.

 

I would argue that it will be a generational thing.

 

For BF's generation, it absolutely does speak volume. Just like the tatoos, piercings, clothing, etc, etc speaks volumes. Because those are the things that were valued at that time.

 

For younger generations, it does not mean as much.

 

But the younger generations also has to realize that those in the older generations are presently the owners and managers of jobs and you have to impress us, not your friends, to get that job.

 

So, you need to realize that it is the older generation you have to worry and be concerned of their view of you as you enter the workplace.

With the widespread use of computers nowadays, and surely more so in the future, the emphasis should be more on typing than writing.

 

It's much faster to type than to write, whether it be in cursive or print. Talking about taking notes, I write all of my notes in print and haven't had any trouble with that. If I wanted to, I could also take my laptop to class and type my notes. Usually though, most of my professors make their notes or slides available to download, print, and bring to class.

 

I can already see the argument, "What if you don't have a computer around?"

 

Well what if you don't have a pencil and paper around?

 

As for writing in the workplace, I don't think I've ever had a job where I had to write anything (other than writing notes on post-its or writing my initials on my soda can so that "Bob" doesn't steal it from the fridge).

 

Worked as a CSR for a telephone company, everything was done via computer. Worked for a library at UK, everything was done via computer. Worked as a CSR for Nextel/Sprint, everything done via computer including job application and testing. Worked as an office manager for a telephone company, everything was done via computer. Work at Enterprise Rent-a-Car, again, everything done via computer including the job application.

Perhaps not everyone can print as fast as you. That being said, it's much faster to write in cursive than it is to print. Also, just because the jobs you've had only require computer use, doesn't mean there aren't many jobs that do.

You totally ignored the learning benefits of writing in cursive. I do, however, agree that learning to type is also extremely important.

Standards change. It used to be, in order to be considered educated, that you had to know Latin. Who amongst us knows Latin? :idunno:

 

So what's wrong with being able to read cursive as well? Dumbing down of America...

 

I disagree that it is dumbing down.

 

As a country moves through it's history, it has to look at what needs to stay and what needs to be jettisoned.

 

At one time Latin was considered important and then was jettisoned when it was determined it was no longer important.

 

Same with shorthand in business. When I got my degree, I learned shorthand because it was important in business.

 

No longer is it and thus, it is no longer taught or important.

 

Does not mean that the business degrees are dumbed down though.

Typing is faster than both!

You can't always have the luxury to type. Who wants to lug a darn computer around with them everywhere they go? Pens and pencils are much lighter and much easier to carry.

You can't always have the luxury to type. Who wants to lug a darn computer around with them everywhere they go? Pens and pencils are much lighter and much easier to carry.

 

Than a cellphone?

I use my cellphone to record what I want to say and then type it later.