I agree with the teacher, let him do it in the evening and request parents watch with their children.

To those who are concerned about this as some form of indoctrination how do you feel about teaching U.S. History in general in the schools?

 

Is that not simply another form of indoctrination by solidifying certain images of our founders and reinforcing the values that we claim to purport in American society?

 

I ask this not because I agree with the president addressing the students regarding any particular issue, but because I wanted to throw that out there.

To those who are concerned about this as some form of indoctrination how do you feel about teaching U.S. History in general in the schools?

 

Is that not simply another form of indoctrination by solidifying certain images of our founders and reinforcing the values that we claim to purport in American society?

 

I ask this not because I agree with the president addressing the students regarding any particular issue, but because I wanted to throw that out there.

Totally different, for one, parents are able to review history books.

 

Obama is a politician, what reason would he have to speak to those that can't vote? What's the point?

Before I answer tell me how this equates to the POTUS speaking to children?

See Bluto's wisest words since "Toga!":

Both would be people with an agenda.

Totally different, for one, parents are able to review history books.

 

Obama is a politician, what reason would he have to speak to those that can't vote? What's the point?

 

 

Not necessarily. In a public school it is essentially an arm of the government whose purpose is to educate and mold future citizens. As such, indoctrination is an important aspect of education.

I'm treading lightly here, because I'm not an expert on the structure of school curriculum....but would you have a problem if a creationist Baptist minister were able to address all of the country's children an explain to them that evolution is false and God created the Earth in 7 24-hour days?

I will have to say...with some of the candidates the GOP throws out there, this could one day be a real scenario.

When I was in school, we always watched the Presidential Innauguration. Would this teacher do that? I always found them to be inspiring. Seems to me that the teacher could use this as an opportunity to open dialogue and teach to the subject(s) addressed in the program.

To me this is just the American people reaping what they sow. I find it comical.

Not necessarily. In a public school it is essentially an arm of the government whose purpose is to educate and mold future citizens. As such, indoctrination is an important aspect of education.

Learning history is indoctrination?

When I was in school, we always watched the Presidential Innauguration. Would this teacher do that? I always found them to be inspiring. Seems to me that the teacher could use this as an opportunity to open dialogue and teach to the subject(s) addressed in the program.

That's what's worrying many.

 

An Innauguration is completely different, IMO.

As a public school teacher (8th grade), this is my take on it: In general most kids don't want to pay attention to lectures, don't want to discuss politics, and don't want to watch videos. Why in the world should I expect them to get much out of this? To them, it will simply be a guy on TV talking that we'll watch and not have homework.

 

If anyone thinks this is indoctrination or whatever, you're being silly. Obama is no idiot; he's not going on TV to "convert" kids to his belief. I can't imagine he would be successful, mostly because so few have any real beliefs other than what mom or dad told them. In my opinion, they would be much more likely to have a belief change from listening to me every single day, not the president for 20 minutes. This is nothing more than adults getting worked up over something political, just like they did last week and the week before.

Learning history is indoctrination?

How isn't it?

 

in⋅doc⋅tri⋅nate

 

1. to instruct in a doctrine, principle, ideology, etc., esp. to imbue with a specific partisan or biased belief or point of view.

2. to teach or inculcate.

3. to imbue with learning.

How isn't it?

How is it?

 

At least where I went to school, we learned that the U.S. made mistakes. We also pretty much learned facts about things that happened, not so much one's political view of it.

I didn't go to Public school, so I don't know if things were taught differently where I went or not.

As a public school teacher (8th grade), this is my take on it: In general most kids don't want to pay attention to lectures, don't want to discuss politics, and don't want to watch videos. Why in the world should I expect them to get much out of this? To them, it will simply be a guy on TV talking that we'll watch and not have homework.

 

If anyone thinks this is indoctrination or whatever, you're being silly. Obama is no idiot; he's not going on TV to "convert" kids to his belief. I can't imagine he would be successful, mostly because so few have any real beliefs other than what mom or dad told them. In my opinion, they would be much more likely to have a belief change from listening to me every single day, not the president for 20 minutes. This is nothing more than adults getting worked up over something political, just like they did last week and the week before.

 

What is President Obama going to talk about, anyways? Would there be a harm in putting a transcript of what he is going to say online, or something like that?

How isn't it?

 

in⋅doc⋅tri⋅nate

 

1. to instruct in a doctrine, principle, ideology, etc., esp. to imbue with a specific partisan or biased belief or point of view.

2. to teach or inculcate.

3. to imbue with learning.

Thanks for the definition, but I already knew what it meant.

 

His·to·ry

 

A. a chronological record of significant events (as affecting a nation or institution) often including an explanation of their causes.

B. a branch of knowledge that records and explains past events

C. events that form the subject matter of a history.

 

 

I don't see specific partisan or biased belief or point of view anywhere in there.