CatsCatsCats Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 To me, the thing that separates college football from the NFL is the many different offenses college teams are known for. We've seen things from the Single Wing and Wishbone all the way up to the Air Raid and Spread Option. So my question to the BGP faithful is..... What is your favorite style of offense that has been used in College Football? My 2nd question is... Do you think that these offenses will come full circle? Many compare the "Wildcat" to the Single Wing, so will we once again see the days the full house backfield and true power football or will football continue to advance an become increasingly more of a passing and spread game?
Cosmo Kramer Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 I'm a huge WVU fan and I enjoyed the spread offense brought to Morgantown by Coach Rod. However to run this effectively, you have to have a QB like Pat White, a true dual threat. Also, speedy RB's are a must. I think the offense a college football team runs depends on the players they recruit. I do think that if a team becomes too one dimensional, "Air Raid at UK", it is easier for other teams to prepare for and defeat. Both are fun to watch. I think in the evolution of college football that the speed and athleticism of its players will almost ensure that the game will become more of a spread the field, pass/run combo.
CatsCatsCats Posted July 30, 2009 Author Posted July 30, 2009 I'm a huge WVU fan and I enjoyed the spread offense brought to Morgantown by Coach Rod. However to run this effectively, you have to have a QB like Pat White, a true dual threat. Also, speedy RB's are a must. I think the offense a college football team runs depends on the players they recruit. I do think that if a team becomes too one dimensional, "Air Raid at UK", it is easier for other teams to prepare for and defeat. Both are fun to watch. I think in the evolution of college football that the speed and athleticism of its players will almost ensure that the game will become more of a spread the field, pass/run combo. Great points. But I'm under the impression that if a Texas or Florida or USC recruited for the Air Raid, they could throw it 75% of the time and win. Those UK teams weren't talented enough to score as many points as they did and though they still lost plenty of games they were tough to defend. Texas Tech is another example, they don't have top 25 talent overall year in year out (Crabs and Welker are the exceptions not the rule) but they consistently win. Sure they don't win National or League titles but they come closer than they should due to the system. I really like a mixture of the Spreads that colleges run. I like the tempo that Gus Malzahn uses, as well as how diversified Oklahoma can be in their super quick package. I like UF's run game and misdirection. When you can have 5 different running plays and make it look like 500, that is pretty unique. I really like Missou's offense, I like how they run plenty of 5 wide, 7 yard shotgun, and throw those timing routes. But, then again I also like old school option football, and even power football like Bama uses.
CoachBuckett Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 Option Football is my favorite offensive style of football. I enjoy watching classic games when the option was the main style of play. I also enjoy how folks have brought it back and running it out of the spread. They are several coaches that have been successful in running the option. Paul Johnson at Ga. Tech is proving folks wrong by winning running the triple option.
CatsCatsCats Posted July 30, 2009 Author Posted July 30, 2009 Option Football is my favorite offensive style of football. I enjoy watching classic games when the option was the main style of play. I also enjoy how folks have brought it back and running it out of the spread. They are several coaches that have been successful in running the option. Paul Johnson at Ga. Tech is proving folks wrong by winning running the triple option. You have to give Johnson and Georgia Tech's athletic department credit, they believed that his triple option approach would work with the big boys and it worked great. Look out for them in the future.
Hatz Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 For me it was the wishbone offense when run well. Texas invented in the offense in my childhood and their early teams were a machine to watch. Oklahoma under Switzer perfected it in my opinion. Watching Thomas Lott, JC Watts, Steve Davis, Jamal Holloway and others run the bone was a beautiful thing. The use of counters, rubs and pitches in a fluid dance was an awesome sight and terrifying for a defense that did not have the abilities to stop each aspect. I know that the rise of more athletic defenses in the LB corp and secondary brought the wishbone to an end, the other offenses such as spread option (WVU, Northwestern) and Air Force's variations are fun to watch but tough to come from behind with. I think it comes somewhat circle but will probably never be the full house wishbone again.
gchs_uk9 Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 You have to give Johnson and Georgia Tech's athletic department credit, they believed that his triple option approach would work with the big boys and it worked great. Look out for them in the future. Johnson's greatest quote was "If was ran it at Navy and beat Pitt and Boston College, why can't we beat them with it at Georgia Tech?"
gchs_uk9 Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 I think it comes somewhat circle but will probably never be the full house wishbone again. It seems more and more people try to get their speed outside. With more athletic defenders (guys that would likely have been running backs in the past), it's hard to keep all of your speed on the inside. That's why, in my opinion, the full house backfield option isn't used very often in college, but the spread option can work so well.
born2reign Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 I love triple option football. I love running it from the I like Tom Osborne, but the spread option of Paul Johnson is fun. I love the fact that the academies run option because it takes disciplined reads and it cancels size and speed advantages when run effectively; both of these have helped keep the acadamies competitive. This being said, I coach in the spread now and we love to sling it. I am growing very fond of the spread and the adavantages it affords us.
born2reign Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 Do you think that these offenses will come full circle? Many compare the "Wildcat" to the Single Wing, so will we once again see the days the full house backfield and true power football or will football continue to advance an become increasingly more of a passing and spread game? I think full house backfields won't ever come back because the elite atheletes won't want to play in them. I don't think an elite prospect looks at that type of offense as one that will get him ready for the next level. I think Alabama and Fresno St., teams that run I offenses, are the closest we will see.
SPORTY GUY Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Love to watch teams such as Florida and West Virginia run out of the spread. With the speed teams have today think that spreading the field will keep on being the offense most teams will try to run. Florida with the speed they have make a defense have to have the same type speed to defend their offense.
stick1 Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Probably my favorite right now is Oregon with the spread passing game but the triple option (sometimes run and pass). I like Fla, GTech, Mizzo and Texas Tech too. I'm anxious to see how Mazlahan's hurry up does at Auburn. He was one of the most innovative high school coaches of all time and fast tracked it too the SEC. Spurrier+Lavell Edwards were great but it was hard to beat the old Nebraska teams even though I wasn't a Nebraska fan. They were dominant!
CatsCatsCats Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 Probably my favorite right now is Oregon with the spread passing game but the triple option (sometimes run and pass). I like Fla, GTech, Mizzo and Texas Tech too. I'm anxious to see how Mazlahan's hurry up does at Auburn. He was one of the most innovative high school coaches of all time and fast tracked it too the SEC. Spurrier+Lavell Edwards were great but it was hard to beat the old Nebraska teams even though I wasn't a Nebraska fan. They were dominant! I think that Auburn will surprise people this year. The only problem is they will probably be no better than 4th in their division. I think Malzahn makes anyone a much better offense, so at a minimum I think Auburn will have at least an adequate offense.
Cosmo Kramer Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Great points. But I'm under the impression that if a Texas or Florida or USC recruited for the Air Raid, they could throw it 75% of the time and win. Those UK teams weren't talented enough to score as many points as they did and though they still lost plenty of games they were tough to defend. Texas Tech is another example, they don't have top 25 talent overall year in year out (Crabs and Welker are the exceptions not the rule) but they consistently win. Sure they don't win National or League titles but they come closer than they should due to the system. I really like a mixture of the Spreads that colleges run. I like the tempo that Gus Malzahn uses, as well as how diversified Oklahoma can be in their super quick package. I like UF's run game and misdirection. When you can have 5 different running plays and make it look like 500, that is pretty unique. I really like Missou's offense, I like how they run plenty of 5 wide, 7 yard shotgun, and throw those timing routes. But, then again I also like old school option football, and even power football like Bama uses. I agree that it comes down to the talent and that talent has to fit the system, whether it be spread, option, air raid, etc. It today's game of college football, speed wins.
Captain W F Call Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Triple Option, Spread Option, Run & Shoot.
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