July 30, 200917 yr :lol: :lol: Coming fromt he Red Sox fan who got their rings on roids. Classic. The Red Sox are probably my least favorite team.
July 30, 200917 yr Nothing from Simmons yet. But here is a twitter from Jack-O: It's like Christmas morning for Yankee fans: 2004* 2007* :lol: :lol:
July 30, 200917 yr :lol: :lol: Coming fromt he Red Sox fan who got their rings on roids. Classic. :lol: :thumb:
July 30, 200917 yr Of course, we know Man Ram's one but Big Papi too? I'm sure Red Sox fan doesn't care............ http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/sports/baseball/31doping.html Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz, the sluggers who propelled the Boston Red Sox to end an 86-year World Series championship drought and to capture another title three years later, were among the roughly 100 Major League Baseball players to test positive for performance-enhancing drugs in 2003, according to lawyers with knowledge of the results. Oh, and so much for the..."What did it get Bonds and McGwire?" argument. It got Man Ram, Ortiz and Beantown a couple of titles. I might concede the 2004 season but 2007 was well after baseball instituted their testing policy. Manny only hit 20 HR in 2007. Ortiz had a monster year but I would guess he had been tested multiple times.
July 30, 200917 yr Author I might concede the 2004 season but 2007 was well after baseball instituted their testing policy. Manny only hit 20 HR in 2007. Ortiz had a monster year but I would guess he had been tested multiple times. Unfortunately a few have proven that testing has not stopped them from using.
July 30, 200917 yr Why are the guys that used steroids or PEDs or whatever any different than the guys that use greenies in the 60s or pitchers that have scuffed baseballs? They all have one thing in common ... they were players looking for an edge. Science and technology is such today that the process has evolved into what it is now.
July 30, 200917 yr Why are the guys that used steroids or PEDs or whatever any different than the guys that use greenies in the 60s or pitchers that have scuffed baseballs? They all have one thing in common ... they were players looking for an edge. Science and technology is such today that the process has evolved into what it is now. Excellent point. And they aren't any different.
July 30, 200917 yr I called this around the start of the season and got push back that he wasn't built like a guy juicing. Nobody suprises me and honestly I think you have to be pretty nieve at this point to think otherwise. Glad the sox cheated their way to a title :-)!
July 30, 200917 yr Why are the guys that used steroids or PEDs or whatever any different than the guys that use greenies in the 60s or pitchers that have scuffed baseballs? They all have one thing in common ... they were players looking for an edge. Science and technology is such today that the process has evolved into what it is now. If you can get a good answer to that you will have dons better then me. The best I could get was steriods guys were/are breaking precious records.
July 30, 200917 yr Author You're comparing scuffing a baseball and steroids and expect to get intelligent conversation? Good luck with that. Greenies only helped focus. While not condoning them, the did not increase muscle mass, improve recovery time, bat speed, reaction times....etc. Greenies can hardly be compared to PED's. Someone made the point about technology. You're right, which is why greenies aren't nearly as big of a deal as PED's.
July 30, 200917 yr This is such a sad day for Boston fans. As a Red Sox fan myself, I am very upset about this, and I hope that Papi mans up and apologizes to everyone. Time to replace him also, I dont want a cheater on my team.
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