What societal costs?

 

And more importantly, what is your solution? Would you do away with gambling in the state completely?

 

Maybe a mod could remove the word "expanded" from the thread topic and we can discuss gambling as a whole in the state.

Done.

Let's see financial issues, marriage breakups, illegal acts, civil issues,

 

http://www.nyu.edu/its/statistics/Docs/task_force_4.html

 

Gambling Debts -- Questions were asked relating to the

amount of gambling debt when the respondent first sought help,

income at that time, and to whom the money was owed. Of the

76 respondents reporting gambling indebtedness when they first

sought help, only three stated they owed nothing. Forty-one

(54%) owed between $2,000 and $30,000; 12 (16%) owed between

$115,000 and $500,000; and one respondent owed over $1 million.

 

Forty of 83 respondents (48%) indicated that at the time

they first sought help the total family income was $30,000 or

less. Twenty-three (28%) had a total family income from

$32,000 to $50,000; five (6%) have a total family income of

over $100,000.

 

 

Illegal Acts -- A number of questions were asked on the

survey relating to illegal acts, both of a criminal and a civil

nature. Twenty-eight (31%) admitted to being delinquent in

paying Maryland state taxes. Fifty-six (62%) admitted to the

commission of illegal acts as a result of their gambling

addiction. Thirty-four (37%) stole money, 30 (33%) wrote bad

checks, 28 (31%) resorted to forgery, embezzlement, mail fraud,

or similar crimes. Some committed more than one type of offense.

 

Other civil offenses as a result of their gambling addiction

included foreclosures on their homes, being delinquent in child

support, and similar offenses. Twenty-one (23%) were charged

with criminal offenses. Most of these were for forgery or bad

check charges. Nine respondents were put on probation, four

served time in jail, and another four were sentenced to jail and

probation.

 

Suicide -- Fifty-nine respondents (65%) indicated that they

seriously considered committing suicide because of their gambling

addiction. The method considered or used for the suicide attempt

was by automobile (15), gun (13), pills (8), with the remainder

planning on using poison, jumping off a bridge, using a butcher

knife, through gas inhalation or by suffocation. Seven

respondents made one or more actual suicidal attempts.

 

Ten years ago there were no poker machine or lottery addicts

in Gamblers Anonymous. Now compulsive gamblers addicted to these

forms of gambling can be found in every meeting. The incidence

of female and youthful addicts also would suggest that the change

of societal mores with respect to gambling, as well as the

availability and accessibility of gambling, are contributing

factors in the increase of compulsive gambling.

 

Of importance also is the growing percentage of gamblers who

become addicted to games with a smaller initial outlay than that

required of casino or horse race gambling. Poker machine and

state lottery addicts, which account for one of every five

addicts for either first or second preference among types of

gambling, are especially conspicuous in their rate of incidence.

Poker machines ranked as a first preference for 16% of these

respondents, only after horse racing and casino gambling. These

games are illegal in the state, and the incidence of poker

machine addicts would seem to indicate that the machines are to

be found throughout the state. The tolerance of these illegal

devices raises the specter of inadequate or selective law

enforcement.

 

Initial play on a poker machine is 25 cents, although play

can be doubled and redoubled for a cost of $2 per play. New

poker machines now also take paper currency, in denominations of

up to $50 or $100, thus accelerating the speed at which an addict

can lose a paycheck.

 

 

 

I stopped at this point cause I got tired of reading it.

This was a survey of gamblers anonymous...what does it prove?

This was a survey of gamblers anonymous...what does it prove?

 

People addicted to gambling like to take it to an excess. Who knew. :ohbrother:

Let's see financial issues, marriage breakups, illegal acts, civil issues,

 

http://www.nyu.edu/its/statistics/Docs/task_force_4.html

 

Gambling Debts -- Questions were asked relating to the

amount of gambling debt when the respondent first sought help,

income at that time, and to whom the money was owed. Of the

76 respondents reporting gambling indebtedness when they first

sought help, only three stated they owed nothing. Forty-one

(54%) owed between $2,000 and $30,000; 12 (16%) owed between

$115,000 and $500,000; and one respondent owed over $1 million.

 

Forty of 83 respondents (48%) indicated that at the time

they first sought help the total family income was $30,000 or

less. Twenty-three (28%) had a total family income from

$32,000 to $50,000; five (6%) have a total family income of

over $100,000.

 

 

Illegal Acts -- A number of questions were asked on the

survey relating to illegal acts, both of a criminal and a civil

nature. Twenty-eight (31%) admitted to being delinquent in

paying Maryland state taxes. Fifty-six (62%) admitted to the

commission of illegal acts as a result of their gambling

addiction. Thirty-four (37%) stole money, 30 (33%) wrote bad

checks, 28 (31%) resorted to forgery, embezzlement, mail fraud,

or similar crimes. Some committed more than one type of offense.

 

Other civil offenses as a result of their gambling addiction

included foreclosures on their homes, being delinquent in child

support, and similar offenses. Twenty-one (23%) were charged

with criminal offenses. Most of these were for forgery or bad

check charges. Nine respondents were put on probation, four

served time in jail, and another four were sentenced to jail and

probation.

 

Suicide -- Fifty-nine respondents (65%) indicated that they

seriously considered committing suicide because of their gambling

addiction. The method considered or used for the suicide attempt

was by automobile (15), gun (13), pills (8), with the remainder

planning on using poison, jumping off a bridge, using a butcher

knife, through gas inhalation or by suffocation. Seven

respondents made one or more actual suicidal attempts.

 

Ten years ago there were no poker machine or lottery addicts

in Gamblers Anonymous. Now compulsive gamblers addicted to these

forms of gambling can be found in every meeting. The incidence

of female and youthful addicts also would suggest that the change

of societal mores with respect to gambling, as well as the

availability and accessibility of gambling, are contributing

factors in the increase of compulsive gambling.

 

Of importance also is the growing percentage of gamblers who

become addicted to games with a smaller initial outlay than that

required of casino or horse race gambling. Poker machine and

state lottery addicts, which account for one of every five

addicts for either first or second preference among types of

gambling, are especially conspicuous in their rate of incidence.

Poker machines ranked as a first preference for 16% of these

respondents, only after horse racing and casino gambling. These

games are illegal in the state, and the incidence of poker

machine addicts would seem to indicate that the machines are to

be found throughout the state. The tolerance of these illegal

devices raises the specter of inadequate or selective law

enforcement.

 

Initial play on a poker machine is 25 cents, although play

can be doubled and redoubled for a cost of $2 per play. New

poker machines now also take paper currency, in denominations of

up to $50 or $100, thus accelerating the speed at which an addict

can lose a paycheck.

 

 

 

I stopped at this point cause I got tired of reading it.

You know what's really cool about all of those things? You get to live and try to make up for your mistakes.

 

In my example I used death...which sucks because last time I checked there isn't a cure for death.

 

And my question was how many people died from gambling?

Your point is well-taken but since us religious kooks are closely tied to the Republicans and Republicans are well-known to have a desire for a MASSIVE and IMPRESSIVE military, I would think twice about it you craven infidel.:clap::dancingpa

In FKW land Pep Rock is in charge of the military...the same guy who advocates using land mines for border control. I think we are in good hands!

In FKW land Pep Rock is in charge of the military...the same guy who advocates using land mines for border control. I think we are in good hands!

 

I like that.

In FKW land Pep Rock is in charge of the military...the same guy who advocates using land mines for border control. I think we are in good hands!

Pep is my hero and I don't care who knows it. :bunny:

Let's see financial issues, marriage breakups, illegal acts, civil issues,

 

http://www.nyu.edu/its/statistics/Docs/task_force_4.html

 

Gambling Debts -- Questions were asked relating to the

amount of gambling debt when the respondent first sought help,

income at that time, and to whom the money was owed. Of the

76 respondents reporting gambling indebtedness when they first

sought help, only three stated they owed nothing. Forty-one

(54%) owed between $2,000 and $30,000; 12 (16%) owed between

$115,000 and $500,000; and one respondent owed over $1 million.

 

Forty of 83 respondents (48%) indicated that at the time

they first sought help the total family income was $30,000 or

less. Twenty-three (28%) had a total family income from

$32,000 to $50,000; five (6%) have a total family income of

over $100,000.

 

 

Illegal Acts -- A number of questions were asked on the

survey relating to illegal acts, both of a criminal and a civil

nature. Twenty-eight (31%) admitted to being delinquent in

paying Maryland state taxes. Fifty-six (62%) admitted to the

commission of illegal acts as a result of their gambling

addiction. Thirty-four (37%) stole money, 30 (33%) wrote bad

checks, 28 (31%) resorted to forgery, embezzlement, mail fraud,

or similar crimes. Some committed more than one type of offense.

 

Other civil offenses as a result of their gambling addiction

included foreclosures on their homes, being delinquent in child

support, and similar offenses. Twenty-one (23%) were charged

with criminal offenses. Most of these were for forgery or bad

check charges. Nine respondents were put on probation, four

served time in jail, and another four were sentenced to jail and

probation.

 

Suicide -- Fifty-nine respondents (65%) indicated that they

seriously considered committing suicide because of their gambling

addiction. The method considered or used for the suicide attempt

was by automobile (15), gun (13), pills (8), with the remainder

planning on using poison, jumping off a bridge, using a butcher

knife, through gas inhalation or by suffocation. Seven

respondents made one or more actual suicidal attempts.

 

Ten years ago there were no poker machine or lottery addicts

in Gamblers Anonymous. Now compulsive gamblers addicted to these

forms of gambling can be found in every meeting. The incidence

of female and youthful addicts also would suggest that the change

of societal mores with respect to gambling, as well as the

availability and accessibility of gambling, are contributing

factors in the increase of compulsive gambling.

 

Of importance also is the growing percentage of gamblers who

become addicted to games with a smaller initial outlay than that

required of casino or horse race gambling. Poker machine and

state lottery addicts, which account for one of every five

addicts for either first or second preference among types of

gambling, are especially conspicuous in their rate of incidence.

Poker machines ranked as a first preference for 16% of these

respondents, only after horse racing and casino gambling. These

games are illegal in the state, and the incidence of poker

machine addicts would seem to indicate that the machines are to

be found throughout the state. The tolerance of these illegal

devices raises the specter of inadequate or selective law

enforcement.

 

Initial play on a poker machine is 25 cents, although play

can be doubled and redoubled for a cost of $2 per play. New

poker machines now also take paper currency, in denominations of

up to $50 or $100, thus accelerating the speed at which an addict

can lose a paycheck.

 

 

 

I stopped at this point cause I got tired of reading it.

 

Here's the leap in logic I can't grasp: That's it's automatic that if we were to allow slots and other forms of casino gambling in Kentucky then all of these numbers you list are going to increase. If Kentucky were free from gambling, it might make more sense. But I could go up to Pendleton County and pick you up to take a short drive, and while we were out I guarantee you I could find dozens of examples of gambling going on all around you. Some legal, such as the lottery. Most, however, would be illegal.

Here's the leap in logic I can't grasp: That's it's automatic that if we were to allow slots and other forms of casino gambling in Kentucky then all of these numbers you list are going to increase. If Kentucky were free from gambling, it might make more sense. But I could go up to Pendleton County and pick you up to take a short drive, and while we were out I guarantee you I could find dozens of examples of gambling going on all around you. Some legal, such as the lottery. Most, however, would be illegal.

 

Absolutely, you are correct.

 

But it is not easily accessible to 100% of the population and thus more of a enticement than the local casino.

In FKW land Pep Rock is in charge of the military...the same guy who advocates using land mines for border control. I think we are in good hands!

 

Well, I think the IRA beat the Taliban and their land mines on Deadliest Warrior, so I will just hire a former IRA person to oversee our military.:lol:

Well, I think the IRA beat the Taliban and their land mines on Deadliest Warrior, so I will just hire a former IRA person to oversee our military.:lol:

You are forgetting that my military will also be heavily funded by the money made from many LBBCians secretly sneaking over to partake in all the debauchery going on in FKY Land!

Just like how our system is supposed to work, our elected legislators addressed the situation.

 

I don't remember us voting on Kera when it came about or even voting on the changes in education this year.

 

Do we vote on EVERY ISSUE in this state or does the legislators that YOU AND I put into office decide them?

 

Yet we put Gay Marriage to the people...

Your point is well-taken but since us religious kooks are closely tied to the Republicans and Republicans are well-known to have a desire for a MASSIVE and IMPRESSIVE military, I would think twice about it you craven infidel.:clap::dancingpa

 

I think you will find this amoral individual far more militant than you will ever be.

If you had it your way how would you like the issue to be handled?

 

Personally I think local governments should be allowed to vote on how much gambling they allow in their community. That way the areas that don't want it don't get it...but they also don't get any of the profits.

 

I see it playing out like this. Louisville, NKY, and Lexington plus all of the Catholic strongholds in the state will allow expanded gambling. The predominantly Protestant areas of the state won't allow it.

 

I don't want the local government voting for me...Let the registered voters of their community vote...Majority Rules...:thumb:

I don't want the local government voting for me...Let the registered voters of their community vote...Majority Rules...:thumb:

 

Isn't that why you elect the local government?