betsylayne_fanatic Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 What defense does your coach use to stop the spread? More and more teams are running the spread offense. I was wondering if I could get some input on how to stop it.
CatsCatsCats Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 What defense does your coach use to stop the spread? More and more teams are running the spread offense. I was wondering if I could get some input on how to stop it. To answer this question, you would first have to tell us what kind of spread offense it is. Is it a WVU/Michigan style zone running game, Air Raid, Run-and-shoot, etc? Not being a jerk, most on here will just have to know what kind of offense you are dealing with.
MSU-70 Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 To answer this question, you would first have to tell us what kind of spread offense it is. Is it a WVU/Michigan style zone running game, Air Raid, Run-and-shoot, etc? Not being a jerk, most on here will just have to know what kind of offense you are dealing with.Agreed.....spread is just a term use to tell how the offense aligns not what type of an offense it is.
betsylayne_fanatic Posted May 11, 2009 Author Posted May 11, 2009 I would say like West Virginia would be the best.
born2reign Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 Like Cats, my response may come off like I'm being a jerk but it is not intended to be rude. Run your defense! If you want to stop any kind of "O", you are better off running what your kids are used to running then trying to pick the perfect defense for a week and trying to impliment it. Now, my favorite type of defense is the 50; I would employ what has been called a multiple 50. We would bring both 3 and 4 man fronts, bring a lot of pressure from different places and get the LB's involved in blitzes, stunts and coverages. The team I coach runs the 4-4. We bring tons of pressure from the LB's and we move our front around constantly so that you can't predict where the 3 tec or 1 tec will be. We have had success with it (been to the last two state title games). It really is about doing what you feel comfortable with. If your kids are comfortable, you can run any defense and be successful against most types of offenses.
CatsCatsCats Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 Like Cats, my response may come off like I'm being a jerk but it is not intended to be rude. Run your defense! If you want to stop any kind of "O", you are better off running what your kids are used to running then trying to pick the perfect defense for a week and trying to impliment it. Now, my favorite type of defense is the 50; I would employ what has been called a multiple 50. We would bring both 3 and 4 man fronts, bring a lot of pressure from different places and get the LB's involved in blitzes, stunts and coverages. The team I coach runs the 4-4. We bring tons of pressure from the LB's and we move our front around constantly so that you can't predict where the 3 tec or 1 tec will be. We have had success with it (been to the last two state title games). It really is about doing what you feel comfortable with. If your kids are comfortable, you can run any defense and be successful against most types of offenses. :thumb: I agree with everything said here. I will add if you are playing a zone running team you have to control the line of scrimmage. That sounds obvious, but your must be able to hold your own in the trenches or a zone option team will kill you. Play your normal defense, make sure you can align correctly to all formations, and practice to stop their best core plays. Also, if it is a true read option, you may need to know if you want the QB carrying the ball or not. This to me should be based on your defensive style and players capabilities and ofcourse on the other teams personel. Hope this helps you out.
MountainThunder Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 It really depends on your defensive personnel and how you match up with the offense. I do agree that you have to play the defense your kids are accustomed to playing, but make the necessary tweaks on how you believe they will attack your defense. While they may run basically the same plays, you can bet that the offense will throw some new wrinkles at you based on what they perceive are your defensive strengths and weaknesses.
Die Hard Blue Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 What defense does your coach use to stop the spread? More and more teams are running the spread offense. I was wondering if I could get some input on how to stop it. It is pretty simple. Put players on the field that know their keys and fly around. If a player hesitates, he's finished. Also, make sure your players STUDY film, not "watch". The players need to understand the opponent's offense.
CoachBuckett Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 What defense does your coach use to stop the spread? More and more teams are running the spread offense. I was wondering if I could get some input on how to stop it. It doesn't matter what defense you run. It's a matter of playing offense while on defense. I think that is where many coaches make their mistakes. They spend to much time worry how to stop the spread offense. Make them think of ways to protect themselves from your defense. In other words be on the offensive at all the times. You do that by apply pressure. Now pressure is not always blitzing. I think pressure starts by covering up the center. If you have a NG then the center has to worry about getting the snap then blocking. If you have a NG that moves it creates problems. But the main key is to out flank the offense.
retired Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 It doesn't matter what defense you run. It's a matter of playing offense while on defense. I think that is where many coaches make their mistakes. They spend to much time worry how to stop the spread offense. Make them think of ways to protect themselves from your defense. In other words be on the offensive at all the times. You do that by apply pressure. Now pressure is not always blitzing. I think pressure starts by covering up the center. If you have a NG then the center has to worry about getting the snap then blocking. If you have a NG that moves it creates problems. But the main key is to out flank the offense. Very well put Grasshopper.....:notworthy:
CoachBuckett Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 Very well put Grasshopper.....:notworthy: Learned from one of the best Defensive Ninja's..........:thumb:
sandlot32 Posted May 13, 2009 Posted May 13, 2009 the 3-5 was created to stop the spread, but in high school most teams do not throw well enough to warrant getting into a 3-5. I agree with the above post about trying to stay as close to your base defense as possible. As an offensive coach down here in the sunshine state we LOVE playing a 3-5. Anytime you LOVE playing against something there is a reason:)
doubledeuce Posted May 13, 2009 Posted May 13, 2009 the 3-5 was created to stop the spread, but in high school most teams do not throw well enough to warrant getting into a 3-5. I agree with the above post about trying to stay as close to your base defense as possible. As an offensive coach down here in the sunshine state we LOVE playing a 3-5. Anytime you LOVE playing against something there is a reason:) Exactly the way we look at it. We love when teams play and odd front against us. It is like stealing when you run the inside zone read against it.
Braveheart Posted May 31, 2009 Posted May 31, 2009 2 types of thinking regarding the spread, passing offense. 1st DEFEND the passer, or PRESSURE the passer. Depending on the speed you have on defense.
doubledeuce Posted May 31, 2009 Posted May 31, 2009 It doesn't matter what defense you run. It's a matter of playing offense while on defense. I think that is where many coaches make their mistakes. They spend to much time worry how to stop the spread offense. Make them think of ways to protect themselves from your defense. In other words be on the offensive at all the times. You do that by apply pressure. Now pressure is not always blitzing. I think pressure starts by covering up the center. If you have a NG then the center has to worry about getting the snap then blocking. If you have a NG that moves it creates problems. But the main key is to out flank the offense. The idea of a NG disrupting a center is some what old school. It might have been true back in the days before players committed to football year round even those who do not, with spring practices and 7 on 7 the amount of snaps a center does is a lot more than in the past. Also, in the past teams would only be in the shotgun on occasion. Now, some teams do over 200 snaps a day in the off-season and 400 a day during the season. Spread teams are almost exclusively in the gun and very seldom go under center if at all so, the center is snapping and blocking everyday. Even a NG that moves around going from a 0 technique to a 1 technique or even to a 2I technique is not that disruptive. In fact, Gun Zone Read teams will automatically run to the opposite side that the NG is shading. If he stays in a 0 tech. they will just double slip to the Mike LB, with the rest of the play side lineman attacking the LB's leaving the DE free for the QB to read. Once you move guys into the box, well, you leave more room for mismatches and opportunities for 2 on 1 and 3 on 2 match-ups in the secondary particularly on your "flat" and "hook" defenders. Of course, as you can tell I am an offensive guy, and on paper the coach with the pencil last wins,lol.
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