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Bad Message from Notre Dame?

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You can, indeed, rest assured that I am an extremist. I am an extremist when it comes to speaking out to protect innocent human life from those, like your president, who have no regard for the sanctity of human life. I would say that, from my understanding of Christianity, I am in good company. Can your Carpathian-like president say the same?

 

Hmmmm...this seems familiar.

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Hmmmm...this seems familiar.

 

I would hope so. It should be the unrelenting refrain of all who treasure the sanctity of life and, thus, are highly suspicious of this individual who inhabits the White House.

Isn't that what Hitler said?

 

An extreme analogy, yes, but certainly to the point.

 

You cannot disallow dissenting opinions. Its not healthy. In fact, I'd argue that allowing a dissenting opinion shows to the students how strong the Church's/school's belief is. It would actually send a positive message to the students.

 

Instead, now students are going to wonder who else isn't allowed to speak at ND simply because they are not in lockstep with the Church.

 

I'm sorry, we are talking about the Church. This, IMO is wrong and I'll stand strong on that w/ 3TL. The Church doesn't waver on abortion. This isn't an issue taken lightly by Catholics. The santity of life is important.

 

Hitler also had concentration camps, abortion clinics are similar if you ask me.

I'm sorry, we are talking about the Church. This, IMO is wrong and I'll stand strong on that w/ 3TL. The Church doesn't waver on abortion. This isn't an issue taken lightly by Catholics. The santity of life is important.

 

Hitler also had concentration camps, abortion clinics are similar if you ask me.

 

Would you be okay with a pro-death penalty speaker, such as former Pres. GWB?

I would hope so. It should be the unrelenting refrain of all who treasure the sanctity of life and, thus, are highly suspicious of this individual who inhabits the White House.

 

Again since you did not respond previously, why do you not hold Republican politicians accountable who claim to "treasure the sancitity of life" but make zero efforts to change it? They are the folks that take your fund raising dollars and make no attempts to change anything. The republicans have so much support on this issue(which again they make no attempts to change) from the religious community despite the fact that they typically ignore all the other social issues, like poverty that Christ spoke of.

So I ask why do they not try to change anything? Is it because they aren't really as pro-life as they claim and are just paying lip service to get contributions or votes??

 

I would encourage you to read this article written back during the election.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/why-im-prolife-and-pro_b_85636.html

Would you be okay with a pro-death penalty speaker, such as former Pres. GWB?

 

Or Bill Clinton, or Bush 1, or Jimmy Carter, or Ronald Reagan or LBJ or Kennedy, etc. I don't believe we've had an anti death penalty president since I can remember.

Roe v Wade was a state law that was challenged and ruled to be unconsititutional by the supreme court in 1973 over 36 years ago. Its decided law and the President has little if any impact on the issue. Why do you think that nothing has been done about it despite having many years when the GOP controlled the presidency and Congress?? It is an emotional issue that people are very passionate about that drives out the vote and raises money. I would suggest instead of bashing the heck out of democrates for the issue to start holding accountable the GOP members in office for not doing more about it when they are in power. Just my thoughts

You need to read the book the 9 about the Supreme Court to see that you are incorrect.

 

 

I am very proud of my Christian/Catholic brothers/sisters who have brought this up and howling in protest.

I believe that's called the "Catholic Conundrum."

 

I would submit it is a Christian Conundrum for many who continually vote against the Christian faith for pro-abortion candidates.

I would submit it is a Christian Conundrum for many who continually vote against the Christian faith for pro-abortion candidates.

 

The conundrum also exists for those that vote against the Christian faith for pro-death penalty candidates, right?

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The conundrum also exists for those that vote against the Christian faith for pro-death penalty candidates, right?

 

Equating the death penalty with abortion is a red herring. Those who support the former but not the latter should not be fooled by the flawed comparison used so often by the liberals and Obamaites in these threads. Abortion deals with the innocents while the death penalty deals with those who are guilty of crimes against humanity. Abortion deals with killing our own without giving them any legal consideration. The death penalty deals with ridding society of those who have had appeal after appeal after appeal covering anywhere from 8 to 30 years.

 

Some religious groups may oppose both but I believe a valid argument can easily be made for supporting the death penalty just as it can be made for just wars.

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Again since you did not respond previously, why do you not hold Republican politicians accountable who claim to "treasure the sancitity of life" but make zero efforts to change it? They are the folks that take your fund raising dollars and make no attempts to change anything. The republicans have so much support on this issue(which again they make no attempts to change) from the religious community despite the fact that they typically ignore all the other social issues, like poverty that Christ spoke of.

So I ask why do they not try to change anything? Is it because they aren't really as pro-life as they claim and are just paying lip service to get contributions or votes??

 

I would encourage you to read this article written back during the election.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/why-im-prolife-and-pro_b_85636.html

 

 

Good grief. I can't believe that you would actually suggest that anyone would read Huffington and grant it any credibility. Surely you have seen the "lovely" Ms. Huffington on television. She used to be a staunch conservative. Thankfully, she joined the dark side. I am saddened that you apparently find it factual. Oh my.

The conundrum also exists for those that vote against the Christian faith for pro-death penalty candidates, right?

 

I don't think so. There are biblical Scriptures to support the use of the death penalty for consequences to one's actions.

Would you be okay with a pro-death penalty speaker, such as former Pres. GWB?

 

Yes, because when it comes to that I beleive you "sleep in the bed you make".

 

A fetus is the most innocent thing on earth. But let's make sure the tax payers a burdened with those hefty life sentence so wack job killers and rape artist can breath.

I would submit it is a Christian Conundrum for many who continually vote against the Christian faith for pro-abortion candidates.

 

And I would submit that you stay with your Christian faith and I'll decide which votes are against MY Christian faith.

And I would submit that you stay with your Christian faith and I'll decide which votes are against MY Christian faith.

 

Just for the record, if it is LBBC's Christian faith, it is the WRONG Christian faith.

 

It is either the Christian faith based on the Bible or it is wrong.

 

I will readily admit that my views have changed as I have studied, prayed and learned more about what the Bible says.

 

My opinion means diddly and squat. What the Bible says is what is important.

 

And I think Dems and Reps alike can agree that God and Jesus would not support abortion. And yet this country does.

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