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Anybody still excited about change?

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You'll certainly understand people's confusion on what exactly is your issue with President Obama.

 

So, if President Obama had an economic policy that lined up with yours, you would be able to overlook his stance on abortion and then be able to call him "your" president?

 

Let me try to be a bit clearer. I obviously have no "positive feelings" toward the new president or his leftwing, socialist, anti-sanctity of life agenda.

 

I would personally never vote for anyone, Democrat or Republican, who is anti-life.

 

My purpose in mentioning the fact that, from all indications, he is also anti-capitalism and that he appears to be more interested in a world government than in protection of our way of life was to indicate that I "differ" from him in more ways than just because he has no respect for life.

 

If I were to say that he is my president it may indicate to some that I somehow support him. I don't. In that regard, I am like Limbaugh. I want his socialist, anti-life, one world government agenda to fail because it will destroy the country and way of life that we hold so dear and that our forefathers (and foremothers) fought for for over two centuries. Surely, I'm not the only one on BGP willing to admit it.

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Let me try to be a bit clearer. I obviously have no "positive feelings" toward the new president or his leftwing, socialist, anti-sanctity of life agenda.

 

I would personally never vote for anyone, Democrat or Republican, who is anti-life.

 

My purpose in mentioning the fact that, from all indications, he is also anti-capitalism and that he appears to be more interested in a world government than in protection of our way of life was to indicate that I "differ" from him in more ways than just because he has no respect for life.

 

If I were to say that he is my president it may indicate to some that I somehow support him. I don't. In that regard, I am like Limbaugh. I want his socialist, anti-life, one world government agenda to fail because it will destroy the country and way of life that we hold so dear and that our forefathers (and foremothers) fought for for over two centuries. Surely, I'm not the only one on BGP willing to admit it.

 

It seems clear to me that your views are rather Reactionary. I can understand your pro-life stand, but calling the President anti-life, anti-capitalism, wanting one world government, socialist come on.....Sounds like you believe everything Jerome Corsi's ever written.:confused:

I would personally never vote for anyone, Democrat or Republican, who is anti-life.

 

it.

 

 

You've never voted for a candidate who is pro-death penalty?

It seems clear to me that your views are rather Reactionary. I can understand your pro-life stand, but calling the President anti-life, anti-capitalism, wanting one world government, socialist come on.....Sounds like you believe everything Jerome Corsi's ever written.:confused:

 

You may think you are clear that my views are, to you, "rather reactionary" but you seem to be blind to the actions taken by your guy since he took office. Surely, you aren't one of those adoring lemmings slowly but surely being led by your messiah over the cliff.

 

I actually know very little about Corsi and am quite able to form my own philosophy. I don't hedge.

What happens if his polices, other than the abortion issue, succeed? Are you still going to proclaim he's not your president?

You've never voted for a candidate who is pro-death penalty?

 

I believe I have been clear in that, although I admit that capital punishment is a crime in the eyes of the Catholic Church, I differ from anyone who has the audacity of comparing the plight of the innocent with the situation of the convicted parasite. I find such a comparison obscene. Of course, I'll have to answer for this belief- one way or the other.

 

I don't consider capital punishment to as a right to life issue. I n such a case I am more concerned with the lost life of the victim(s) of the parasite.

RTS, we do not agree on much but I do agree with you on this statement. I also respect your opinion, and our rights as Americans, to have different opinions than those who are elected to office!
:thumb: Same here, I respect yours as well and enjoy reading your posts.
I believe I have been clear in that, although I admit that capital punishment is a crime in the eyes of the Catholic Church, I differ from anyone who has the audacity of comparing the plight of the innocent with the situation of the convicted parasite. I find such a comparison obscene. Of course, I'll have to answer for this belief- one way or the other.

 

I don't consider capital punishment to as a right to life issue. I n such a case I am more concerned with the lost life of the victim(s) of the parasite.

 

It seems that absolutes are absolutes only when they fit your opinion, i.e. Catholics are hypocritical for voting for someone that is pro-choice, but not for voting for someone that supports the death penalty.

What happens if his polices, other than the abortion issue, succeed? Are you still going to proclaim he's not your president?

 

Boy, that is a big "if", don't you think. I have no interest in the redistribution of my wealth by a, at best, quasi-socialist government. I am quite able and quite willing to do whatever distribution of my wealth I consider needed, proper, and deserved.

 

As I said earlier, I have enough to answer for down the road. However, those sins will not include my active or passive support of those who, in essence, wage a war of destruction against our most vulnerable and innocent under the guise of "freedom of choice". Such copnduct by our alleged "leaders" is unconscionable and I am somewhat disappointed that I am apparently the only one on here willing to so unequivocally state.

 

So, rockmom, the answer is no. I would never consider one with his apparent disdain for the value and sanctity of human life to be my president. I am quite familiar with the contents of the US Constitution since I have taught college courses which included it as a major paert of the course. I realize that he is president of the United States. However, I am not aware of any sttement, law, or precedent that requires that I claim him as my president. Thus, I don't do so.

Boy, that is a big "if", don't you think. I have no interest in the redistribution of my wealth by a, at best, quasi-socialist government. I am quite able and quite willing to do whatever distribution of my wealth I consider needed, proper, and deserved.

 

As I said earlier, I have enough to answer for down the road. However, those sins will not include my active or passive support of those who, in essence, wage a war of destruction against our most vulnerable and innocent under the guise of "freedom of choice". Such copnduct by our alleged "leaders" is unconscionable and I am somewhat disappointed that I am apparently the only one on here willing to so unequivocally state.

 

So, rockmom, the answer is no. I would never consider one with his apparent disdain for the value and sanctity of human life to be my president. I am quite familiar with the contents of the US Constitution since I have taught college courses which included it as a major paert of the course. I realize that he is president of the United States. However, I am not aware of any sttement, law, or precedent that requires that I claim him as my president. Thus, I don't do so.

 

Fair enough.

I believe I have been clear in that, although I admit that capital punishment is a crime in the eyes of the Catholic Church, I differ from anyone who has the audacity of comparing the plight of the innocent with the situation of the convicted parasite. I find such a comparison obscene. Of course, I'll have to answer for this belief- one way or the other.

 

I don't consider capital punishment to as a right to life issue. I n such a case I am more concerned with the lost life of the victim(s) of the parasite.

 

 

 

And that folks, is a fine example of rationalization!

 

and a great example of "Do as I say, not as I do".

Let me try to be a bit clearer. I obviously have no "positive feelings" toward the new president or his leftwing, socialist, anti-sanctity of life agenda.

 

I would personally never vote for anyone, Democrat or Republican, who is anti-life.

 

My purpose in mentioning the fact that, from all indications, he is also anti-capitalism and that he appears to be more interested in a world government than in protection of our way of life was to indicate that I "differ" from him in more ways than just because he has no respect for life.

 

If I were to say that he is my president it may indicate to some that I somehow support him. I don't. In that regard, I am like Limbaugh. I want his socialist, anti-life, one world government agenda to fail because it will destroy the country and way of life that we hold so dear and that our forefathers (and foremothers) fought for for over two centuries. Surely, I'm not the only one on BGP willing to admit it.

 

 

 

You could always move to any number of countries that will welcome your intolerance. Some that come to mind are Taliban controlled Afghanistan, Iran, or Saudi Arabia. I saw the other day where they were going to flog an old woman who had two mail non-related visitors.

You could always move to any number of countries that will welcome your intolerance. Some that come to mind are Taliban controlled Afghanistan, Iran, or Saudi Arabia. I saw the other day where they were going to flog an old woman who had two mail non-related visitors.[/quote

 

Intolerant? You have to be kidding. If you mean I am intolerant because I don't support the killing of babies, born or preborn, then, indeed, I guess you are correct.

 

Your analogies to other countries that also show no respect for the sanctity of life are too ridiculous and without merit to warrant a reply. By the way, your other post is quite lame also.

Fair enough.

 

Indeed so. Certainly fair enough. Thank you and best wishes.

I believe I have been clear in that, although I admit that capital punishment is a crime in the eyes of the Catholic Church, I differ from anyone who has the audacity of comparing the plight of the innocent with the situation of the convicted parasite. I find such a comparison obscene. Of course, I'll have to answer for this belief- one way or the other.

 

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You'll again excuse me for not following your seemingly conflicting posts.

 

If I go against the teachings of the Catholic Church, I have no business attending that Church. I need to find your president's church- assuming he really has one now.

 

This issue, to a Catholic (and to many others) is not negotiable nor can it be rationalized. You should know that.

 

So, to be clear, the Catholic church is against the death penalty but you rationalize it away using abortion as a basis. Does the Church rationalize like you do? If so, do you still stand behind your post above saying that if you go against the teachings of the Church that you have no business attending the Church?

 

I don't care what your stance is. I am just trying to find consistency and where you truly stand.

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