Question about transfers?

[WVFrank]

Following the various threads about younger players playing up and then transferring as well as the various other threads discussing eligibility raises a question.

 

What about a player like Moss who played up as an eight grader at Ryle and has now left the team as a ninth grader. She appears to be a player without a home as long as she stays at Ryle. For those familiar with the rules, as well as with "how things have gone" in the past for players who have changed schools, what are the options for a player in a situation like Moss?

[doubledeuce]

Following the various threads about younger players playing up and then transferring as well as the various other threads discussing eligibility raises a question.

 

What about a player like Moss who played up as an eight grader at Ryle and has now left the team as a ninth grader. She appears to be a player without a home as long as she stays at Ryle. For those familiar with the rules, as well as with "how things have gone" in the past for players who have changed schools, what are the options for a player in a situation like Moss?

 

Get things straightened out at Ryle, to play there next year.

 

If that is not possible, the only way to be eligible next year would be to move, have a change of residence.

[theguru]

Friendly warning here, if anyone has issues with the Ryle girls basketball program please contact the Boone County Board of ED and leave it out of this thread.

[Larry Bud]

Get things straightened out at Ryle, to play there next year.

 

If that is not possible, the only way to be eligible next year would be to move, have a change of residence.

 

 

On the high school level, once a player has participated in a varsity game as a freshman, then they must sit out a year in that sport unless they have a change of residence living with a legal guardian. I am not aware of any other way around that issue.

[hoopgirl40]

If a player, any player, is mature enough in 7th or 8th grade to play varsity, shouldn't she be mature enough to play by varsity rules? Could this be one of the kid's unforseen consequences of playing up? Emotional maturity and physical maturity do not go hand in hand. It's not so cut and dried that little Susie is a good player at age 12, and can hold her own at the varsity level. Kids don't see what can happen down the road, perhaps how their own immaturity can cause differences with a coach and suddenly they find themselves with no place to play. Or how a twisted knee can end her basketball career before she reaches high school. Or how missing 8th grade dances for varsity practice is something she can never get back. Or what will it do to her ego if she makes varsity as a 7th grader, but not as a freshman. If a kid is allowed to play varsity, she probably will. It is the responsibilty of the parent to look beyond the ego boost from having a young kid on a high school team, and make an informed decision, in the best interest of the kid.

 

This is a general statement, not about the girl mentioned earlier, I do not know her or her circumstances.

[32minutesofpressure]

Following the various threads about younger players playing up and then transferring as well as the various other threads discussing eligibility raises a question.

 

What about a player like Moss who played up as an eight grader at Ryle and has now left the team as a ninth grader. She appears to be a player without a home as long as she stays at Ryle. For those familiar with the rules, as well as with "how things have gone" in the past for players who have changed schools, what are the options for a player in a situation like Moss?

 

She played Varsity at Heritage Christian as a 7th grader.

[Ram]

On the high school level, once a player has participated in a varsity game as a freshman, then they must sit out a year in that sport unless they have a change of residence living with a legal guardian. I am not aware of any other way around that issue.

There are other ways, but change of address is the easiest:

 

Bylaw 6. Transfer Rule

Sec. 1) Domestic Students

a) BONA FIDE CHANGE IN RESIDENCE - If there has

been a bona fide change in residence by the parents

and student that precedes a student’s change of

schools.

For purposes of this bylaw, a bonafide change of

residence means changing of the permanent residence

of the student and the student’s entire immediate family

[the moving of the student and his/her parents] from one

school district or defined school attendance area into

another school district or defined school attendance

area prior to a change in enrollment of the student. A

student who becomes emancipated does not have a

bona fide change of residence by virtue of his/her

emancipation and change of residence for purposes of

this bylaw.

b) DIVORCE - The KHSAA will not recognize a legal

separation as grounds for waiver of the provisions of

this bylaw. The Commissioner may waive the provisions

of this bylaw in the event of a dissolution of marriage

(i.e. a final and legally binding divorce decree from a

court of competent jurisdiction) of the parents and a

change in the residence of the student pursuant to a

court order granting custody of the child to one of the

parents with whom the student shall reside. In the event

joint custody is awarded to both parents, for purposes of

this bylaw, the student shall be deemed to reside at his

or her previous residence if one parent retains this

residence. If neither parent retains the former residence,

the parents shall designate one of their new residences

(mother or father) for the purpose of this bylaw, such

designation to be reviewed and approved by the

Commissioner.

c) GUARDIANSHIP/CHANGE OF CUSTODY - The

KHSAA shall not recognize guardianship or similar

arrangements made, for purposes of this bylaw. The

Commissioner shall have authority to waive the

provisions of this bylaw where it is shown that custody

of the student has been taken from one or both parents

and given to a third person by a court of competent

jurisdiction and under circumstances indicating: (1) the

parent(s) is/are unfit or (2) the court finds that the health

and welfare of the student would be better served by the

change in custody.

d) DEATH - In the event the death of one or both of the

student’s custodial parents creates such circumstances

that the transfer to another secondary school is deemed

appropriate.

e) BOARDING SCHOOLS - The Commissioner may waive

the period of ineligibility on a one-time basis for students

entering a boarding school on a full time basis as a

boarding school student.

f) NON ATHLETIC PARTICIPATION FOR AN ENTIRE

SCHOOL YEAR - In the event that the transferring

student did not participate in an interscholastic contest

at any level in any sport while enrolled at the sending

school during the entire academic school year

immediately preceding the change in schools

g) REASSIGNMENT BY BOARD OF EDUCATION -

Through a properly documented reassignment of the

Board of Education to another school in the district. To

meet this exception for a reassignment, reasons for the

assignment may include, but are not limited to, the

closing or opening of a school due to consolidation,

merger, opening of a new school, or another type or

opening or closing or assignment through KRS

158.6455 or other applicable adopted regulation. Such

assignment may be to the public school district should a

private, parochial or independent school close.

h) TRANSFER FROM NON-MEMBER SCHOOL – Any

student transferring from a non-member school located

in Kentucky whose athletic participation has been

limited primarily to other non-member schools may have

the period of ineligibility waived.

 

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[loje]

Seems to me like this family will either have to move, resolve any differences(if any) with Ryle, sit out a year, or find a nice private school with a great basketball program out of the area for their daughter to attend.

[Clyde]

Seems to me like this family will either have to move, resolve any differences(if any) with Ryle, sit out a year, or find a nice private school with a great basketball program out of the area for their daughter to attend.

 

Going to a private school without a change of address resolves nothing.

[loje]

Going to a private school without a change of address resolves nothing.

 

I know she has to have a change of address. That is why I mentioned a private school out of the area. Her family can well afford for her to attend school anywhere. She could easily live with another family member. That might be easier than packing up the entire family. Of course, most of the kids are young and it would be better to move them now. Anyhow, this brings up a question for me. Is this girl that good? If she is then I would do all I could to get her into a great program. If not, then I would tell her to sit out a year. She could play summer ball and maybe find some league for the year. Not sure what is available. I am assuming going back to Ryle is not an option.

[Clyde]

She is good now and has a chance to be very good.

[highschoolsportsfan]

Following the various threads about younger players playing up and then transferring as well as the various other threads discussing eligibility raises a question.

 

What about a player like Moss who played up as an eight grader at Ryle and has now left the team as a ninth grader. She appears to be a player without a home as long as she stays at Ryle. For those familiar with the rules, as well as with "how things have gone" in the past for players who have changed schools, what are the options for a player in a situation like Moss?

 

Checked with my local AD on this, if you're in the 8th grade or below and you play at the high school this does not lock you in at that school. When she enters the 9th grade she can enroll ANYWHERE she wants and be eligible immediately WITHOUT moving. AFTER she enters the 9th grade AND plays in a VARSITY contest then she is locked in to that school and the transfer rules would apply to her.

[ckshockey]

She has already played for the varsity this year as a Freshman. What ever she and her family decide to do for next year I wish them the best. She is a real talent who has real potential to go the the next level someday. Mistakes were made, she's young , put it behind and start over. I believe that every decision I made as a Freshman in High School weren't always the best . Good luck Sydney.

[Crunch-time]

She's 14yrs old and will make many mistakes. The coaches are new and will also make mistakes. She's a great kid and a great player. Both sides need to come together and talk.

[buzzard22]

She could end up back at Heritage Academy and play next year on the Junior Varsity Level and have her Junior and Senior years to play. She like it there very much, and does play on an AAU traveling team. Major colleges already know about her from her AAU tournament days as a 7th grader. She was out of public eye at Heritage and could get her educationally ready for college at a smaller school. Don't be surprised to see her return there. There was no Varsity team this year after she left, but some other girls may transfer in to play, where they would not play elsewhere.