Who is responsible for making sure the child is academically eligible and by what standards?

 

The parent who wants their child to be playing going to be the one to declare them academically ineligible?

 

I think we should look at the other states permitting the home schoolers to play and see how they handle the academic eligibility issue. I think 23 or 24 states allow home schoolers to play so it seems if those states have found a way to handle the situation without harming the integrity of academics.

 

And when you stop and think about it, don't a lot of parents home school their kids because of the parents' concern about providing a quality education to their kids, and if so, do you think that you are going to find many home schoolers that wouldn't be academically eligible if they were attending the traditional school system? Just think about it logically for a second. I'd like to think that any parent that home schools because of academic concerns isn't going to let their children participate in athletics if their children were not "getting it done" academically at home. Sure, there may be the one percent of parents that home school because they place too much emphasis on athletics and feel that if their child was in a traditional school that the kid wouldn't be able to be academically eligible to play sports, but I've never been in favor of any rule that penalizes the great many to thwart the improper actions of the very few.

 

I think, but admittedly do not know without doing more research, that the concern about some academically ineligible home schoolers getting to participate is really more "fluff than stuff" and may in the case of some public school administrators and supporters (not insinuating you LBBC) be being used in a vindicative manner against some home schooling parents that have vocally raised their concerns about the quality of the nearby public schools as their justification for home schooling. The old "if my public school isn't good enough for your kids, you can't play on my athletic teams" sort of simplistic, and, in my opinion, shallow thinking.

 

I'm not sure where I stand on this issue until more research into the other states is performed. I just don't at this point think such research is going to find that the other states have found much of a problem from the academic eligibility standpoint. If they had, wouldn't the law had been changed?

And when you stop and think about it, don't a lot of parents home school their kids because of the parents' concern about providing a quality education to their kids, and if so, do you think that you are going to find many home schoolers that wouldn't be academically eligible if they were attending the traditional school system? Just think about it logically for a second. I'd like to think that any parent that home schools because of academic concerns isn't going to let their children participate in athletics if their children were not "getting it done" academically at home. Sure, there may be the one percent of parents that home school because they place too much emphasis on athletics and feel that if their child was in a traditional school that the kid wouldn't be able to be academically eligible to play sports, but I've never been in favor of any rule that penalizes the great many to thwart the improper actions of the very few.

You're right, as it stands now. But, my concern is, after home schooled students are allowed to participate in school organized athletics, will the number of home schooled students go up? And, if or when that happens, will there be people who are homeschooling to manipulate the system?

 

I agree that right now in the state of Kentucky the home school students probably have very good grades. But, when their is an athletic advantage to being home schooled, I worry that some parents will home school their children for less then perfect reasons.

 

This is my major worry about this proposal.

You're right, as it stands now. But, my concern is, after home schooled students are allowed to participate in school organized athletics, will the number of home schooled students go up? And, if or when that happens, will there be people who are homeschooling to manipulate the system?

 

I agree that right now in the state of Kentucky the home school students probably have very good grades. But, when their is an athletic advantage to being home schooled, I worry that some parents will home school their children for less then perfect reasons.

 

This is my major worry about this proposal.

 

There is a good number of home schooled students because their child won't behave and the parent is tired of dealing with it so instead of dropping out, they have withdrew their kid to home schooling.

 

There are some great, great home schooling going on in this state.

And there are some that is nowhere near any type of schooling.

You're right, as it stands now. But, my concern is, after home schooled students are allowed to participate in school organized athletics, will the number of home schooled students go up? And, if or when that happens, will there be people who are homeschooling to manipulate the system?

 

I agree that right now in the state of Kentucky the home school students probably have very good grades. But, when their is an athletic advantage to being home schooled, I worry that some parents will home school their children for less then perfect reasons.

 

This is my major worry about this proposal.

 

Your concerns are understandable. Which is why I hope the KHSAA and the legislators make suitable inquiries to the other states that have permitted home schoolers to participate to determine if there has been a problem after the home schoolers started participating. Again, we have to be cognizant of the fact that there will always be some people that want to manipulate any system and I hate penalizing the 95% that do things for the right reason because of a small percentage that do things for the wrong reason.

 

LBBC, you may be right about some parents home schooling for the reasons stated. I'll accept your word on that. But heck, this law may result in some better governance of home schooling in the future if its needed.

Your concerns are understandable. Which is why I hope the KHSAA and the legislators make suitable inquiries to the other states that have permitted home schoolers to participate to determine if there has been a problem after the home schoolers started participating. Again, we have to be cognizant of the fact that there will always be some people that want to manipulate any system and I hate penalizing the 95% that do things for the right reason because of a small percentage that do things for the wrong reason.

 

LBBC, you may be right about some parents home schooling for the reasons stated. I'll accept your word on that. But heck, this law may result in some better governance of home schooling in the future if its needed.

 

You are correct about protecting the 95%. I am just curious as to the problems and successes that other states have had with this rule. I am also curious of the number of home schooled students that are involved with school athletics in other states.

You are correct about protecting the 95%. I am just curious as to the problems and successes that other states have had with this rule. I am also curious of the number of home schooled students that are involved with school athletics in other states.

 

Me too, which is why until I learn more about what has happened in other states I'm keeping an open mind on this issue.

Your concerns are understandable. Which is why I hope the KHSAA and the legislators make suitable inquiries to the other states that have permitted home schoolers to participate to determine if there has been a problem after the home schoolers started participating. Again, we have to be cognizant of the fact that there will always be some people that want to manipulate any system and I hate penalizing the 95% that do things for the right reason because of a small percentage that do things for the wrong reason.

 

LBBC, you may be right about some parents home schooling for the reasons stated. I'll accept your word on that. But heck, this law may result in some better governance of home schooling in the future if its needed.

 

GROAN....I can bet who is going to be responsible for that governance. Like we need one more thing to do in the public school system. Bet it is unfunded too.

GROAN....I can bet who is going to be responsible for that governance. Like we need one more thing to do in the public school system. Bet it is unfunded too.

 

:thumb: I know where your coming from on this one!:cry:

That's a question better left for the parents who choose to pull their kids out of the school environment (and the commensurate extracurricular activities that go with it), don't you?

 

 

I chose to send my kids to a private school, I pay taxes. My children do not have the opportunity to use the facilites that I pay for. It is my choice!

Same for home schoolers, the parents have chosen not to go to the public schools. It is a choice!. They decided that education is more important. That is why we have schools. Sports are only a bonus.

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GROAN....I can bet who is going to be responsible for that governance. Like we need one more thing to do in the public school system. Bet it is unfunded too.

 

I was thinking that there would be additional staffing hired at the KDE level to do the monitoring, but you could be right; they could push it onto the public school personnel which I agree with you would be a mistake.

I was thinking that there would be additional staffing hired at the KDE level to do the monitoring......

You funny man.:lol:

I chose to send my kids to a private school, I pay taxes. My children do not have the opportunity to use the facilites that I pay for. It is my choice!

Same for home schoolers, the parents have chosen not to go to the public schools. It is a choice!. They decided that education is more important. That is why we have schools. Sports are only a bonus.

 

The taxes you pay for the schools help keep your property values high. That is the way you should be looking at it.

....I'm not sure where I stand on this issue until more research into the other states is performed. I just don't at this point think such research is going to find that the other states have found much of a problem from the academic eligibility standpoint. If they had, wouldn't the law had been changed?

I'm with LN, don't really know enough about it to make a proprer decision but on the surface, I see nothing wrong with allowing it.

You funny man.:lol:

 

I try.