It's not all about scoring points. Just looking at the two, Arnold looks much more polished than Stauffer. Better handling the ball, quicker, better defender, more versatile, and shows much better composure.

 

Stauffer is a nice player but if he's one of the tops in nky, our soph class up here is WAY down.

 

 

And you are basing this on the one time you have seen Stauffer? Seems like the same argument you have when people do not buy your opinion on Arnold. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

Stauffer is a tough hard nosed player who does not back down. Sometimes a little overly excited but goes 100% every game. As far as composure, didn't Arnold sit a game this year for some "composure & attitude issues"

Here's what the "experts" have to say about Arnold:

 

"Kevon Arnold, a 6-foot-6 sophomore at Covington (Ky.) Holmes, has the look of a future Division-I prospect. He’s got a pair of long arm, attacks the rim with aggression and showed a nice looking floater."

 

"Kevon Arnold, Holmes – You might know him now, but this slick southpaw will be a household name in two years. Arnold is an integral part of the Bulldogs' bench as he bides his time filling in for a talented frontline. He has scored 35 of his 54 points this season in the team's last seven contests."

 

I know I can go overboard sometimes when it comes to Holmes, but honestly I'd say I'm pretty dead on with my assessment of Arnold, and the "experts" who have been scouting the area for the past 10-20 years tend to agree with me as well.

Here's what the "experts" have to say about Arnold:

 

"Kevon Arnold, a 6-foot-6 sophomore at Covington (Ky.) Holmes, has the look of a future Division-I prospect. He’s got a pair of long arm, attacks the rim with aggression and showed a nice looking floater."

 

"Kevon Arnold, Holmes – You might know him now, but this slick southpaw will be a household name in two years. Arnold is an integral part of the Bulldogs' bench as he bides his time filling in for a talented frontline. He has scored 35 of his 54 points this season in the team's last seven contests."

 

I know I can go overboard sometimes when it comes to Holmes, but honestly I'd say I'm pretty dead on with my assessment of Arnold, and the "experts" who have been scouting the area for the past 10-20 years tend to agree with me as well.

 

 

You think! You also fail to mention that the same website/blog mentions two other N Ky sophs. Time will tell if any of them develop into collegiate level players.

And you are basing this on the one time you have seen Stauffer? Seems like the same argument you have when people do not buy your opinion on Arnold. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

Stauffer is a tough hard nosed player who does not back down. Sometimes a little overly excited but goes 100% every game. As far as composure, didn't Arnold sit a game this year for some "composure & attitude issues"

 

Again, I talk to scouts regularly who see these kids more than you and I combined and they all echo the same sentiments that I voiced after last night's game, regarding Stauffer. Hodges of Conner is the only one who they've even mentioned in the same sentence as Arnold, and rightfully so, given the numbers he's putting up out there in Hebron.

 

NO doubt Stauffer's a tough, hard nosed player who doesn't back down. I just don't think his talent level is the same as Arnold's. We're obviously going to continue to agree to disagree on the matter.

 

Arnold did indeed have to sit a game this year because of an attitude issue in the game before. BTW, since he's sat that game out he's played his best seven games of the year. That shows a lot of maturity IMO.

You think! You also fail to mention that the same website/blog mentions two other N Ky sophs. Time will tell if any of them develop into collegiate level players.

 

See my previous post before this one.

I strongly agree! AAU allows the kids that suffer minimal playing time on their high school teams due to seniority the ability to play against some top notch talent and improve their game. If you get with the right coach and the right talent it's enjoyable and not a "nescessary evil". Some parents may think so, because of the commitment it requires, but we love it. In order to be the best, you have to go the extra mile, and continue to improve your game. Where else can you get that after the school season ends? Again, the key is a good AAU coach and team players, not a bunch of ball hogging egoes on a team! Ask King James what he thinks of AAU?

 

There's pros and cons to these programs. Some pros are exposure to college coaches but what % of boys playing AAU ball would even be noticed. I'm sure some kids develope some skills ,some being good and some being not so good. Another thing is ,Why would anyone want to coach AAU ball and what % of the coaches are really good coaches? How can you practice maybe once a week and get a team organized.Last year ,our AAU team had kids from Eastern . Central and Northern ky. Practice sessions are hard to meet.The con that I see is getting burned out. Kids get out of the high school schedule and in two weeks start traveling all over the U.S. to play game after game and play all summer until the high schools plays their games in August and then the schools have open gym 4-5 nights a week.. Kids need some time off. I saw as many games in AAU as anyone on this site last year ( EXCEPT FOR COACHES) and you can not tell me a kid can't get burned out. AAU is a money deal big time. You can argue all you want but that's the way I see it.

The kids that burn out are not the kids that truly love the game.

The kids that love the game would have a ball in their hands most of the time with or without AAU plain and simple.

The kids that burn out are not the kids that truly love the game.

The kids that love the game would have a ball in their hands most of the time with or without AAU plain and simple.

 

 

Really ,don't you feel that some of the comments I made were true,about the quality of coaches you have in AAU, it being a big money deal, playing without practices, not taking any time off, the large % of boys not being noticed by college coaches, the travel expenses, and on most teams I saw, a few would hog the ball especially if they knew they were being watched. I loved the game and playing when I was in school as much as onyone but I don't know if I could take it like the kids do today.

Edited January 27, 200917 yr by d-dawg

HOOPDR........Thank you! Good point! People have their opinions, and the only ones that really count belongs to the kids playing the game. The kids that as you say "truly love the game".

There's pros and cons to these programs. Some pros are exposure to college coaches but what % of boys playing AAU ball would even be noticed. I'm sure some kids develope some skills ,some being good and some being not so good. Another thing is ,Why would anyone want to coach AAU ball and what % of the coaches are really good coaches? How can you practice maybe once a week and get a team organized.Last year ,our AAU team had kids from Eastern . Central and Northern ky. Practice sessions are hard to meet.The con that I see is getting burned out. Kids get out of the high school schedule and in two weeks start traveling all over the U.S. to play game after game and play all summer until the high schools plays their games in August and then the schools have open gym 4-5 nights a week.. Kids need some time off. I saw as many games in AAU as anyone on this site last year ( EXCEPT FOR COACHES) and you can not tell me a kid can't get burned out. AAU is a money deal big time. You can argue all you want but that's the way I see it.

 

 

I would hope they coach because they love the game just as much as the players. If you are playing with good talent, then playing time is shared (less chance of physical burn out), the knowledge of fundamental basketball should already be present(minimizing practices needed once games start). No need to argue, because it doesn't matter how we see it. If a kid is burnt out, he or she won't perform, bottom line. If the drive is there to compete day in and day out, that kid is blessed, and may some day be rewarded. Yes a kid can get burned out, but that's when you have to have a gut check and decide how far you want to go to reach a goal of playing at the next level. AAU is here to stay and some kids are getting recognition more so from this organization than any.

I would hope they coach because they love the game just as much as the players. If you are playing with good talent, then playing time is shared (less chance of physical burn out), the knowledge of fundamental basketball should already be present(minimizing practices needed once games start). No need to argue, because it doesn't matter how we see it. If a kid is burnt out, he or she won't perform, bottom line. If the drive is there to compete day in and day out, that kid is blessed, and may some day be rewarded. Yes a kid can get burned out, but that's when you have to have a gut check and decide how far you want to go to reach a goal of playing at the next level. AAU is here to stay and some kids are getting recognition more so from this organization than any.

 

When a player decides that basic fundamental practice is not neccesary in the summer, that player is finished progressing.

Tates Creek - Barksdale and Fucci

Mason County - Setty

Henry Clay - Kielsing and Wilder

GRC - Stenzel

Elliot - Kipp

Warren Central - Shanklin

I beg to differ as much as I would like to agree with you high school basketball is ALL about scoring. If you don't score you sit or do not play...that is what I have seen? Very unfortunate.

 

 

It's not all about scoring points. Just looking at the two, Arnold looks much more polished than Stauffer. Better handling the ball, quicker, better defender, more versatile, and shows much better composure.

 

Stauffer is a nice player but if he's one of the tops in nky, our soph class up here is WAY down.

I beg to differ as much as I would like to agree with you high school basketball is ALL about scoring. If you don't score you sit or do not play...that is what I have seen? Very unfortunate.

 

Offense sells tickets, defense wins championships. See the past 4 state champions and look at their defensive averages.

Agree,:thumb: we are on the same page!