I don't think so, but then again I'm sure you're getting ready to tell me that I'm wrong.:irked:

 

Nope. Just seeing how sure you were. You are correct. No violation since A never had control in the front court.

Nope. Just seeing how sure you were. You are correct. No violation since A never had control in the front court.

 

I thought of it in a different way, but was still fairly certain. Team A has the ball and B is full court pressing. B backtips the ball and it crosses the line to another member of team B.

I thought of it in a different way, but was still fairly certain. Team A has the ball and B is full court pressing. B backtips the ball and it crosses the line to another member of team B.

 

Gotcha. No violation on that one either.

Nope. Just seeing how sure you were. You are correct. No violation since A never had control in the front court.

 

Your original scenario was confusing. You said "thrown in from the sideline", but you left out the important info: where the player was who was standing out of bounds. Apparently, you were envisioning a player on the sideline in backcourt...but if they had the ball on the sideline in frontcourt, this would be a violation as they had already established control in frontcourt. (correct?)

I think that if the ball is clearly headed out of bounds then you blow the whistle as it was clearly going to go out of bounds. If another player is close to the ref and had a shot at it then I believe the ref shouldn't blow the whistle.

Your original scenario was confusing. You said "thrown in from the sideline", but you left out the important info: where the player was who was standing out of bounds. Apparently, you were envisioning a player on the sideline in backcourt...but if they had the ball on the sideline in frontcourt, this would be a violation as they had already established control in frontcourt. (correct?)

 

Incorrect. It doesn't matter where the throw-in comes from. The NBA may have that rule but high school and college do not.

I think that if the ball is clearly headed out of bounds then you blow the whistle as it was clearly going to go out of bounds. If another player is close to the ref and had a shot at it then I believe the ref shouldn't blow the whistle.

 

Are you saying you believe that to be the rule or how the rule should be written?

OK...what's the call here? Player A jumps in the air, saves a loose ball to a teammate, and lands OOB. He gets both feet back in bounds and takes a pass from his teammate and scores. Violation?

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Bingo. The ball attains backcourt status as soon as it touches the official who is in the backcourt. So, offense touched it last in the front court, ball attains backcourt status, offense is the first to touch it - over and back.

 

I thought the player had to have both feet and the ball, in other words all three points, to be considered transitioned from back court to front court. Why is this different?

 

I was confused earlier, but now I understand... possession in front court, ball went into to back court so there is a violation at the point of touching.

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Another variation: A1(visiting team) is throwing the ball in from the sidelines in front of the home team student section. Student in section while harassing A1 makes physical contact. Call?

OK...what's the call here? Player A jumps in the air, saves a loose ball to a teammate, and lands OOB. He gets both feet back in bounds and takes a pass from his teammate and scores. Violation?

 

Not only is this not a violation it would NOT be a violation if he only had one foot inbounds and the other in the air. Two feet in bounds is a myth.

I thought the player had to have both feet and the ball, in other words all three points, to be considered transitioned from back court to front court. Why is this different?

 

I was confused earlier, but now I understand... possession in front court, ball went into to back court so there is a violation at the point of touching.

 

1. The "3 points" (both feet and the ball) only apply to a dribbler.

 

2. Violation as long as the offense was the last to touch it in the frontcourt before it went to the backcourt. This brings up another myth. Ball in frontcourt. A1 attempts to pass. B1 deflects the pass and and it hits A1 before rolling to the backcourt where A1 is the first to touch it. Violation. You will hear "it was tipped" but that's irrelevant.

Another variation: A1(visiting team) is throwing the ball in from the sidelines in front of the home team student section. Student in section while harassing A1 makes physical contact. Call?

 

Probably a "no call" if it happens before the ball is released. Move them back and re-do the throw.

Incorrect. It doesn't matter where the throw-in comes from. The NBA may have that rule but high school and college do not.

 

Thanks for the info. I knew the passer could throw it into backcourt to A3, but did not realize a "friendly" player could touch the ball in frontcourt (on a play like this) and knock it into backcourt and it not be a violation. Thanks.

Thanks for the info. I knew the passer could throw it into backcourt to A3, but did not realize a "friendly" player could touch the ball in frontcourt (on a play like this) and knock it into backcourt and it not be a violation. Thanks.

 

The only possible issue would be if the player in the frontcourt actually gained control of the ball in the air before sending it to the backourt. If so, then it would be a violation.