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What's the Call, Grandstand Referees?

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A1 taking the ball out on the sideline near the division line. He throws it in, its tipped by B1, A2 jumps from the frontcourt, catches it in the air, and then lands in the backcourt.

 

Now what?

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Where is the ref?

 

Who's on first?

A1 taking the ball out on the sideline near the division line. He throws it in, its tipped by B1, A2 jumps from the frontcourt, catches it in the air, and then lands in the backcourt.

 

Now what?

 

over and back. Same as any throw in. He takes off in frontcourt, but lands in backcourt with ball. Before landing his point of possesion is frontcourt. Right?

This is a violation. Touching the official is the same as touching the floor where the official is standing (Rule 4.4.4). Possession goes to Team B at the spot of the violation (where the ball touched the official).

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over and back. Same as any throw in. He takes off in frontcourt, but lands in backcourt with ball. Before landing his point of possesion is frontcourt. Right?

 

Right call but not for the right reason. Had I left out "tipped by B1" it would not be a violation.

A1 has the ball in the frontcourt and passes it towards A2 who is also in the frontcourt near the division line. It goes past A2 and hits the referee who is on the other side of the division line (ie in the backcourt). The ball bounces off of the referee and comes back to A2 who picks it up while still in the frontcourt?

 

Do you blow your whistle? Was there any violation?

 

What was the call???? I thnk the official is considered part of the floor so if it hit him in backcourt and came back to front court it would be the same if it had back spin onit and came back so I would say no call, play.

Right call but not for the right reason. Had I left out "tipped by B1" it would not be a violation.

 

Okay, you lost me. I thought in any case, if I take off in front court, catch the ball, land in backcourt; over and back!

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What was the call???? I thnk the official is considered part of the floor so if it hit him in backcourt and came back to front court it would be the same if it had back spin onit and came back so I would say no call, play.

 

The call on the original play is a violation. Your "back spin" example would also be a violation.

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Okay, you lost me. I thought in any case, if I take off in front court, catch the ball, land in backcourt; over and back!

 

True.

 

Except for throw-ins and a jump ball.

 

What made it a violation in my play I posted is that the defender tipped it. That wipes out the throw-in exclusion.

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Lets add one more variation:

 

Throw-in from the sideline. Throw in to the front court where A2 seeing that its about to be caught by the defender slaps it to the backcourt. A3 grabs it in the backcourt.

 

What now?

True.

 

Except for throw-ins and a jump ball.

 

What made it a violation in my play I posted is that the defender tipped it. That wipes out the throw-in exclusion.

 

Okay. I understand.:banana::banana:

Lets add one more variation:

 

Throw-in from the sideline. Throw in to the front court where A2 seeing that its about to be caught by the defender slaps it to the backcourt. A3 grabs it in the backcourt.

 

What now?

No violation? Possession was not gained in front court.

Lets add one more variation:

 

Throw-in from the sideline. Throw in to the front court where A2 seeing that its about to be caught by the defender slaps it to the backcourt. A3 grabs it in the backcourt.

 

What now?

 

Nothing because possession was never had until A3 grabs it?

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Nothing because possession was never had until A3 grabs it?

 

A tip in the frontcourt doesn't cause it to have frontcourt status?

A tip in the frontcourt doesn't cause it to have frontcourt status?

 

I don't think so, but then again I'm sure you're getting ready to tell me that I'm wrong.:irked:

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