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Field Goal Controversies: Building a better goal post.

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There are a lot of field goal controversies every year in football at the HS level. A high kick above the uprights that passes over one or the other upright is very hard to tell if it is good or bad.

 

The problem is perspective. Setting in the stands it is hard to tell from which angle the ball passes over that zone where it might be good, but might not. Fans on one side may see it as good, while on the other side of the field it may look very wide.

 

The referees under the uprights are the ONLY people who have a good enough view to make that call. There just simply is no other place to view it and get a positive picture. It is simple geometry.

 

So I thought about building a better goal post. Would it be possible to have a laser attachment that went on the back or top of the crossbar. This would have a series of lasers a couple inches apart. And then one on each upright that shoots straight up, directly verticle? Any football that crosses that path would glow red for a second as it passes through making it much easier to detect by the referees on the ground.

 

How about something like this?

 

(Forgive the crude drawing.)

 

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I'm guessing the FAA would shoot down this idea, but its a start. :D

WATUSI, you have way to much time on your hands. However, good question! JD

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It is a slow day today. And since I already made the Highlands fans mad at me, I thought I'd try and help them solve this problem so they don't get cheated out of anymore field goals. :lol:

 

 

Before the hate mail comes in, I'm just kidding, Boom. :D

Why not just put up a big net and say it has to fall in the net to be good?

It is a slow day today. And since I already made the Highlands fans mad at me, I thought I'd try and help them solve this problem so they don't get cheated out of anymore field goals. :lol:

 

 

Before the hate mail comes in, I'm just kidding, Boom. :D

 

Now that's funny!!!! We wouldn't need referees:thumb: By the way, it's not very often we have to kick a field goal:p

Why not just put up a big net and say it has to fall in the net to be good?

 

With the ability and strength of the high school kickers today, I think the best solution would to use NFL style goal posts. That's the only other solution I can think of.

Instead of lasers, use colored LED's. The light would dissipate quickly keeping the FAA off everyone's backs, and the teams could customize the LED's color to match their shool's colors.

 

Plus LED's are low voltage and very space efficient making them not only an economical optional, but an energy efficient one as well.

Make them high-powered SDI-style lasers. That way, when you heard the ball explode you'd know for sure it was good. And we could save on gunpowder. :cool:

In NKY, Conner's goal posts have to be a nightmare for officials. The uprights can't be longer than 10 feet.

What are we going to do about the side of fans that sees the hold vs the side that does not? What about the coach that sees the facemask vs the one that does not? Don't forget the goalline....Some fans may see a touchdown while the other side sees a fumble?

 

Can we get to where there is no human involvement in the officiating?

 

Part of the game? Who cares what the fans in the stands think? We have guys in striped shirts that are on the field to tell the fans in the stands whether the kick was good or not.

 

I am moving over to the Baseball board to lobby for lasers coming off home plate in the strike zone, this way when I am sitting in left field I can tell if the umpire is right!

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Instead of lasers, use colored LED's. The light would dissipate quickly keeping the FAA off everyone's backs, and the teams could customize the LED's color to match their shool's colors.

 

Plus LED's are low voltage and very space efficient making them not only an economical optional, but an energy efficient one as well.

 

There you go. It would have to be some light source that is strong enough up to about 50 ft to light up the ball, but that would dissipate after that. Would LED's do that?

 

The school colors idea is a good one and would look really cool, too. :thumb:

Funy someone said the referees under the goal posts have the best view, in the NCC game this past weekend, both the referees under the goal posts missed the call. The ball just made it over the goal post and they looked at each other and called it no good! The judge behind the kicker said the lights were in his eyes, so he missed it to. The game film proved the kick was good. So maybe we do need something better than we currently have, in a close game that could have been costly!

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What are we going to do about the side of fans that sees the hold vs the side that does not? What about the coach that sees the facemask vs the one that does not? Don't forget the goalline....Some fans may see a touchdown while the other side sees a fumble?

 

Can we get to where there is no human involvement in the officiating?

 

Part of the game? Who cares what the fans in the stands think? We have guys in striped shirts that are on the field to tell the fans in the stands whether the kick was good or not.

 

I am moving over to the Baseball board to lobby for lasers coming off home plate in the strike zone, this way when I am sitting in left field I can tell if the umpire is right!

Lighten up, Francis. ;) All in good humor.

 

Sure the fans are going to gripe about calls and such no matter what you do. However the spirit of this idea was to help the referees to more easily make the right call in tough situations.

 

Do you think the referees would welcome something simple that makes it easier to get the right call on FG attempts? They use counters and down markers, they use stopwatches and game clocks and scoreboards. They could keep track of all that manually, but all these mechanical aids make their job easier. Why shouldn't the referees make use of something like this?

Funy someone said the referees under the goal posts have the best view, in the NCC game this past weekend, both the referees under the goal posts missed the call. The ball just made it over the goal post and they looked at each other and called it no good! The judge behind the kicker said the lights were in his eyes, so he missed it to. The game film proved the kick was good. So maybe we do need something better than we currently have, in a close game that could have been costly!

 

Instant replay for high school football? It went from the pros to college, who knows, maybe high school is next.

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