November 8, 200817 yr A rself-described Reverend was in my office this week and he told me that God is "Pro-Choice" because he gave us free will and the ability to choose. After a frustrating 10 minute discussion, we agreed on the following statement: "God is against abortion but he gives people the ability to choose." I say we as a society can pass laws outlawing/limiting/controlling abortion. He says we can't. I point out that if he believes abortion is murder, which he does, then it has to be illegal. He wouldn't agree because, in my opinion, he is hung-up on the word "choice". He believes so strongly that if God lets us "choose" our way in life, that he must be "Pro-Choice" in the abortion debate. It is a different view that I had never heard or even read here.
November 8, 200817 yr A rself-described Reverend was in my office this week and he told me that God is "Pro-Choice" because he gave us free will and the ability to choose. After a frustrating 10 minute discussion, we agreed on the following statement: "God is against abortion but he gives people the ability to choose." I say we as a society can pass laws outlawing/limiting/controlling abortion. He says we can't. I point out that if he believes abortion is murder, which he does, then it has to be illegal. He wouldn't agree because, in my opinion, he is hung-up on the word "choice". He believes so strongly that if God lets us "choose" our way in life, that he must be "Pro-Choice" in the abortion debate. It is a different view that I had never heard or even read here. Very twisted. Using his logic, we should have no laws because God has given us the right to choose and no man has the right to stop us from making any choice.
November 8, 200817 yr A rself-described Reverend was in my office this week and he told me that God is "Pro-Choice" because he gave us free will and the ability to choose. After a frustrating 10 minute discussion, we agreed on the following statement: "God is against rape but he gives people the ability to choose." I say we as a society can pass laws outlawing/limiting/controlling rape. He says we can't. I point out that if he believes rape is a heinous act, which he does, then it has to be illegal. He wouldn't agree because, in my opinion, he is hung-up on the word "choice". He believes so strongly that if God lets us "choose" our way in life, that he must be "Pro-Choice" in the rape debate. It is a different view that I had never heard or even read here. Made a few changes. You could try to use this arguement for any situation. In my opinion it's still twisted logic either way.
November 8, 200817 yr IMHO, the Reverend is emotionally invested in a pro-choice position which blinds him to the logical weaknesses of his argument.
November 8, 200817 yr A rself-described Reverend was in my office this week and he told me that God is "Pro-Choice" because he gave us free will and the ability to choose. After a frustrating 10 minute discussion, we agreed on the following statement: "God is against abortion but he gives people the ability to choose." I say we as a society can pass laws outlawing/limiting/controlling abortion. He says we can't. I point out that if he believes abortion is murder, which he does, then it has to be illegal. He wouldn't agree because, in my opinion, he is hung-up on the word "choice". He believes so strongly that if God lets us "choose" our way in life, that he must be "Pro-Choice" in the abortion debate. It is a different view that I had never heard or even read here. Does he feel the same way about murder laws? And he is right that no matter whether you pass a law or not, the final choice comes down to the person. But just as society does not support murder and thus passes murder laws, abortion should be handled the same way.
November 8, 200817 yr Sounds like he is trying to "use" God to justify murder. Very twisted logic. If he truly believes this he would think any law that hampers "choice" is wrong.
November 8, 200817 yr whatever happened to giving your child up for adoption? If they don't want a baby, why don't they do that?
November 8, 200817 yr EVERYTHING is permissable, but not everything is beneficial. Abortion is not murder.
November 8, 200817 yr EVERYTHING is permissable, but not everything is beneficial. Abortion is not murder. :laugh::laugh::laugh: Yeah and it's okay to lie too....as long as it's a little white lie.
November 8, 200817 yr :laugh::laugh::laugh: Yeah and it's okay to lie too....as long as it's a little white lie. Hoopboy, I quoted scripture, you might want to look it up.
November 8, 200817 yr Hoopboy, I quoted scripture, you might want to look it up. Everything is persimmible, but not everything is beneficial. I guess that's saying it's okay to kill unborn babies.
November 8, 200817 yr EVERYTHING is permissable, but not everything is beneficial. Abortion is not murder. That's an opinion, not a fact.
November 9, 200817 yr That's an opinion, not a fact. Just as yours is an opinion. That is the whole crux of the debate. Until someone SCIENTIFICALLY defines when life begins it is a matter of opinion.
November 9, 200817 yr Oh, it's okay, he backed it up with scripture. The quote on scripture was in support of the notion that God gives us choice. Which God certainly does. It was not meant to support abortion on which I think the Bible is silent.
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