I just love when politics and reliion gets put in the same thread. I am yet to see evidence on this infantcide voting.

 

You don't want to see it.

:lol: Too much trouble to provide some facts of your own? The "factcheck" link even acknowledges that the Obama campaign's explanation has changed over time. What it does not explain is the reason that Obama's explanation changed over time. It was the revelation that Obama voted against a version of the bill in committee that contained the language that he claimed had been missing that forced his campaign to change its story.

 

You are correct about one thing. If all you have are Obama's words to refute the documented evidence, then your argument that Obama did not lie about the National Right To Life, Jill Stanek, and other critics and about his votes in the Illinois Senate would not be very compelling.

 

:thumb:

You need to read the Word of God and Obama needs to go back to his Rev J.Wright and stop claiming to be a Christian.

 

I have read the word of God several times. It sounds like YOU need to read the word of God again because you seem to be claiming that Obama is not a Christian. As TB&G has already stated, you do not know anyone's personal relationship with God but your own.

 

The Bible says,

 

"Do not judge lest you be judged. "For in the way that you judge you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. "And why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? "Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye? "You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye." (Matthew 7:1-5)

You know his personal relationship with God? How can you know this for anyone besides yourself?

 

Because Jesus the Christ said that "you shall know them by the fruits that they bear." and Obama does not bear the fruit of a true born again Christian. He bears the fruit of a reprobate.

I have read the word of God several times. It sounds like YOU need to read the word of God again because you seem to be claiming that Obama is not a Christian.

 

The Bible says,

 

"Do not judge lest you be judged. "For in the way that you judge you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. "And why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? "Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye? "You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye." (Matthew 7:1-5)

 

Why are you judging me then?

Great argument. :lol:

 

That poor horse has been beaten to death way too many times on here. Why do it again?

Why are you judging me then?

 

Where did I judge you?

Here is a good overview of Obama's votes in defense of infanticide.

 

Obama Cover-up Revealed On Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Bill

 

The following statement was issued on Monday, August 11, 2008, by the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) in Washington, D.C.

 

New documents just obtained by NRLC, and linked below, prove that Senator Obama has for the past four years blatantly misrepresented his actions on the Illinois Born-Alive Infants Protection bill.

 

Summary and comment by NRLC spokesman Douglas Johnson: "Newly obtained documents prove that in 2003, Barack Obama, as chairman of an Illinois state Senate committee, voted down a bill to protect live-born survivors of abortion -- even after the panel had amended the bill to contain verbatim language, copied from a federal bill passed by Congress without objection in 2002, explicitly foreclosing any impact on abortion. Obama's legislative actions in 2003 -- denying effective protection even to babies born alive during abortions -- were contrary to the position taken on the same language by even the most liberal members of Congress. The bill Obama killed was virtually identical to the federal bill that even NARAL ultimately did not oppose."

Because Jesus the Christ said that "you shall know them by the fruits that they bear." and Obama does not bear the fruit of a true born again Christian. He bears the fruit of a reprobate.

 

So, if for those that don't "know" him that way...what does that make them? Not Christian?

 

A reprobate? Honestly? He is destined for dam-nation? Is this a new email that I will get sometime this week?

Here is a good overview of Obama's votes in defense of infanticide.

 

Consider the source.

That poor horse has been beaten to death way too many times on here. Why do it again?

Because liberals continue to post Obama's lies about his record on this issue. A lie repeatedly made that goes unchallenged will be accepted as the truth by many people. When Obama comes clean or his supporters stop regurgitating his dishonest defense of his votes, then I will stop posting the facts.

Because Jesus the Christ said that "you shall know them by the fruits that they bear." and Obama does not bear the fruit of a true born again Christian. He bears the fruit of a reprobate.

 

That's your opinion.

Because liberals continue to post Obama's lies about his record on this issue. A lie repeatedly made that goes unchallenged will be accepted as the truth by many people. When Obama comes clean or his supporters stop regurgitating his dishonest defense of his votes, then I will stop posting the facts.

 

Yep. I've seen that done on here on both sides.

 

The truth is the truth, however, whether it is believed or not.

That's your opinion.

 

No, that's the truth of the Word of God!

No, that's the truth of the Word of God!

 

Can you give me the verse where is says that Obama is a reprobate? I must have missed that one in Sunday school. :lol: