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Phillies win NL Pennant

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Ratings all come from the way media portrays it. I mean if there were media coverage of the Rays for many many years and they got hyped up and everything then we'd have a different story. The only reason people view these ratings are because of how often the Yankees, Boston, Dodgers, are always on tv. ESPN is in Connecticut I believe and they are New York, Boston biased...Not saying it's always bad but when people start talking about them and ratings and how it's good for baseball, it's just dumb.

 

Baseball shouldn't be about money, Boston and New York are just that, teams made from an unlimited payroll. That's not good for baseball for the simple fact that it shows that you need to spend, spend and spend in order to win and that's not true. The Rays story is a great story for baseball and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know much about baseball.

 

This World Series will not get low ratings and if by chance it does then it shows just how much fans have changed from loving baseball to loving media driven storylines.

 

 

Come on, you're not that naive. Baseball, just like any other business, is all about the money. That's like saying WalMart isn't all about the money....

Ratings all come from the way media portrays it. I mean if there were media coverage of the Rays for many many years and they got hyped up and everything then we'd have a different story. The only reason people view these ratings are because of how often the Yankees, Boston, Dodgers, are always on tv. ESPN is in Connecticut I believe and they are New York, Boston biased...Not saying it's always bad but when people start talking about them and ratings and how it's good for baseball, it's just dumb.

 

Baseball shouldn't be about money, Boston and New York are just that, teams made from an unlimited payroll. That's not good for baseball for the simple fact that it shows that you need to spend, spend and spend in order to win and that's not true. The Rays story is a great story for baseball and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know much about baseball.

 

This World Series will not get low ratings and if by chance it does then it shows just how much fans have changed from loving baseball to loving media driven storylines.

 

New York has a payroll that is $71 Million more than the next closest team. The Red Sox spend a bunch of money but aren't in New York's league as far as spending goes. In fact, they were 4th in 2008 behind both New York teams and Detroit. What do those 3 teams have in common? None of them even made the playoffs so a huge payroll does not quarantee success. As a matter of fact there were 11 teams that had a payroll of over $100 million--your Braves were included in that number. Would it have been bad for baseball if they had made it?

New York has a payroll that is $71 Million more than the next closest team. The Red Sox spend a bunch of money but aren't in New York's league as far as spending goes. In fact, they were 4th in 2008 behind both New York teams and Detroit. What do those 3 teams have in common? None of them even made the playoffs so a huge payroll does not quarantee success. As a matter of fact there were 11 teams that had a payroll of over $100 million--your Braves were included in that number. Would it have been bad for baseball if they had made it?

 

No. And here's why. You may say I'm being a hypocrite by saying that but the Braves are not known as sending "blank checks" at every big time FA trying to buy a championship. The Braves have just began here recently to increase their payroll once again. They were decreasing payroll for a lot of the 2000's. If you call New York and Boston in different leagues as far as spending money then so is the Braves.

No. And here's why. You may say I'm being a hypocrite by saying that but the Braves are not known as sending "blank checks" at every big time FA trying to buy a championship. The Braves have just began here recently to increase their payroll once again. They were decreasing payroll for a lot of the 2000's. If you call New York and Boston in different leagues as far as spending money then so is the Braves.

 

 

Boston's payroll was much closer to Atlanta's than it was to the Yankees. The Yankees spent almost $76 Million than the Red Sox, who spent $31 Million more than the Braves. Whether you choose to accept it or not Atlanta is one of the "haves" in baseball. As for throwing money at every FA, that isn't how Boston has built this team. Of their major players only Drew, Ortiz (who wasn't a big name free agent when signed), Dice-K, Okajima and Wakefield were signed as Free Agents. Everyone else was obtained via trade or draft.

Boston's payroll was much closer to Atlanta's than it was to the Yankees. The Yankees spent almost $76 Million than the Red Sox, who spent $31 Million more than the Braves. Whether you choose to accept it or not Atlanta is one of the "haves" in baseball. As for throwing money at every FA, that isn't how Boston has built this team. Of their major players only Drew, Ortiz (who wasn't a big name free agent when signed), Dice-K, Okajima and Wakefield were signed as Free Agents. Everyone else was obtained via trade or draft.

 

Dice-K is the only guy I can think of that Boston went nuts throwing money at...

 

The Red Sox spend a lot of money, but they're more selective about it than the Yankees. Nobody in MLB is comparable to the Yanks, IMO. I think the Sox still focus on building from within, while selectively adding pieces through trade or free agency. They Yankees went nuts for a while just signing every marquee guy who became available and they suffered as a result.

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Bottom line is people are still going to watch. If you love the game you'll watch no matter who is playing.

Bottom line is people are still going to watch. If you love the game you'll watch no matter who is playing.

 

Just not enough. The fact is the NFL and football in general have far supassed baseball in viewership. Sure there are still diehard baseball fans that will watch no matter what. However, the same is true of almost every cancelled show in the history of television, there just aren't as many diehard fans of baseball as there used to be. For the viewership numbers to be high there usually has to be one of the big market teams playing--that's just how it is. You can go anywhere in the US and find plenty of Red Sox, Yankee, Mets, Dodgers, Cubs and Cardinal hats and shirts. You still find the other teams stuff too but not in the numbers that you do those teams--they are true national draws with a large number of supporters. A casual, bandwagon type fan is not going to devote 24+ hours over a week and a half to watch the Rays in the World Series. They may tune in for a little while or even catch a whole game but not enough to help ratings.

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I can tell you this much the Rays or the Phillies don't care who watches!

It looks like some of you guys are forgetting that the Sox are still alive....

It looks like some of you guys are forgetting that the Sox are still alive....

 

 

They look dead to me! :thumb:

I hope the Rays make it they are an exciting team to watch. I think it will be good for baseball if the Rays go on to win. It will be fun to watch the Rays (If they win tonight) and Phillies offenses in the WS.

May not be the household names, most know but the WS is the pinnacle, of Baseball. If the Rays and Phillies happen, speaks more of the ability to play the game, in many aspects and not always, have to have the largest payroll.

 

As for ratings, not the best option but the Dodgers vs Red Sox, is no longer an option. It may generate interest among younger viewers and those of us, who are passionate about the game.

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