Completely in the wrong to call it a lie. You can say it is hearsay's opinion but how can you qualify it as a lie? Do you know Letterman? Can you say 100% hearsay is wrong?

 

I said it was his right to think whatever he wishes. But he is in the wrong to call someone a megalomaniac for making a joke. That's twisting things a lot. Letterman made a sarcastic remark that "the White House runs through me" and suddenly he is now a megalomaniac? It was a joke, sheesh.

 

I have watched Letterman for as long as I can remember, and yes I have met him. No, I do not claim to know him personally, but he does not have the agenda that some people are making him out to have. He was upset and had every right to be upset after the stunt that McCain pulled.

 

Yes, he has made fun of McCain and Palin recently because that's what's been in the news, but that's not to say that he hasn't made fun of Obama too. Whether good or bad, Palin has been dominating the media as of late. Letterman has welcomed McCain and Palin to come on the show, but that was before last night's discovery so I don't know now.

How do we know what McCain really told him?

 

Your question: Why would Letterman lie about what McCain said?

 

My follow-up: Did you really just ask that question?

 

This is Dave's show. He is the night-time Oprah. He has an agenda. But when he said "the road to the White House runs through me," does anyone believe he was joking? He and Olbermann are megalomaniacs and they used their pulpit to condemn how anyone could prevent "their show from going on."

 

When we start allowing TV personalities to dictate the way they think things should be run ("what you do is you send your Vice President to be on the show"), then we deserve everything we get.

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

The bolded is an outright lie, but you're welcome to think whatever you wish. Olbermann maybe, but Letterman, no.

 

I do have a question for you though. Have you ever met Mr. Letterman? If no, then how can you make such a comment?

 

You've probably never met John McCain, yet you label him a liar in the title of your thread. Your premise for that accusation is based upon what Letterman told you, not what you know to be true or false. Hearsay therefore calls hearsay.

 

I stand by my statement that Olbermann and Letterman are megalomaniacs, with agendas. I think their actions make that opinion beyond cavil. If you believe the opinion false, then impeach it. I doubt your ability to so.

 

I will let the liar accusation drop, since when I took my oath I swore not to fight a duel.

That's the feeling I got from watching it. He understands that cancellations need to happen sometimes, but what was the point in lying about it?

 

 

Letterman went on to state, "This is not the John McCain I know, by God"

 

 

"This doesn't smell right."

 

"It makes me believe something is going haywire with the campaign," he said. "Something's gotten to him."

 

 

"Here's what you do if you are running a campaign in the middle of an economic crisis and it’s about to crater," Letterman continued. "You go back to Washington, you handle what you need to handle. Don't suspend your campaign. You let your campaign go on shouldered by your vice presidential nominee…or is that really a good thing to do? See what I am saying?"

 

 

"If your quarterback can't play, you put in your second string quarterback, you don't suspend your campaign."

 

 

In response to Letterman, a McCain aide said on NBC's Today Show Thursday morning, "We deeply regret offending Mr. Letterman, but our candidate's priority at this moment is to focus on this crisis," she said.

 

And how is lying to Letterman, and then going on Couric's show "focusing on the crisis"?

This is pathetic. I can't believe there are people out here that actually are trying to make this a big deal.

 

Oh come on like there wouldn't be more if Obama did this to someone? :lol:

What do you have to back up your statement that Letterman is a megalomaniac? A joke? Is that all? That's awful little to jump to such a conclusion considering it was a sarcastic remark. If you're claiming that Letterman is a megalomaniac because of the "the White House runs through me" statement, then yes, that is a lie, it is an untruth, because that statement was made as a joke.

 

I have not met McCain, and I'm not claiming that I have. As I stated above, yes, I have met Letterman. I have no reason to believe that Letterman was lying, and it's sad that I believe a television personality over our possible future leader, but McCain has done nor said anything that leads me to believe otherwise. All the McCain camp has said about the situation is, "We regret offending Mr. Letterman, but our candidate's top priority at this moment is to focus on the crisis." - This said after McCain blew off Letterman for Couric.

 

I think it would have been different had McCain just said, "sorry, I have to go to a news outlet to make some statements before I go off to D.C." but he didn't. He tried to tip-toe around getting out of Letterman and got caught.

 

 

BTW, I want to apologize if I've come across as brash or harsh in this thread. I'm not in a good mood today due to the construction going on right outside my apartment door. The non-stop squealing and banging is super-annoying.

You have absolutely no idea what McCain said or didn't say. You have only Letterman's statements.

 

There are literally dozens of reasons that Letterman could have taken them out of context, including:

 

1. Letterman is liberal, and generally supports Democrats;

2. Olbermann was sitting right there;

3. He had no material, and taking shots at McCain gave him some good material;

 

Evidence that the attack by Letterman was mean-spirited include the Metamucil comment, the failure to reference how many times McCain has been on before, the downplaying of McCain's offer to come on later with Palin, the various shots at Palin, etc. etc. etc.

 

It is an effort in banality to continue discussion of this if you cannot comprehend that comedians such as Letterman often make "jokes" tongue-in-cheek about issues that they in actuality firmly believe, in this case, Letterman's firm belief that he and other media personalities can influence the outcome of politics.

 

"Megalomania" is a preoccupation with one's own estimation of his/her influence. I offer as Exhibit A, Letterman's life work, and do not need to have met him to have formed that opinion.

You have absolutely no idea what McCain said or didn't say. You have only Letterman's statements.

 

There are literally dozens of reasons that Letterman could have taken them out of context, including:

 

1. Letterman is liberal, and generally supports Democrats;

2. Olbermann was sitting right there;

3. He had no material, and taking shots at McCain gave him some good material;

 

Evidence that the attack by Letterman was mean-spirited include the Metamucil comment, the failure to reference how many times McCain has been on before, the downplaying of McCain's offer to come on later with Palin, the various shots at Palin, etc. etc. etc.

 

It is an effort in banality to continue discussion of this if you cannot comprehend that comedians such as Letterman often make "jokes" tongue-in-cheek about issues that they in actuality firmly believe, in this case, Letterman's firm belief that he and other media personalities can influence the outcome of politics.

 

"Megalomania" is a preoccupation with one's own estimation of his/her influence. I offer as Exhibit A, Letterman's life work, and do not need to have met him to have formed that opinion.

 

Never once during the show did I get the sense that Letterman was implying that he was more important or more influential, or even that a candidate needed to come on his show to get elected. I think he was very upset that his show, for the night, was put in such a bad spot on such short notice. He had every right to be. Are you telling me that you wouldn't be upset if someone promised you something and then didn't follow through on it? Later you find out that their excuse was a lie?

 

If you'll allow me to relate this to something I deal with in real life; I'm in a band and we deal with different venues and concert promoters all the time. If there is one thing they hate, it's when another band calls them up the day of the show and cancels. The venue/promoter put time and effort into the promotion of the event and then all of that goes to waste. Then, they are put in the position of either canceling the show or finding a replacement, which can be hard to do on such short notice and often leads to a loss of money. These people often get really upset with such short cancellations, not because they don't like the band, but because they got shafted and don't like the position they were put in.

 

I will not deny that Letterman was hard on McCain last night. He definitely was, but I don't think it's because he is a megalomaniac or has an agenda, I think it's because he was upset at the position he was put in, especially having to scramble to find a guest to fill the show and then not being prepared for that guest/having to scrap segments or jokes that were going to be done during the show.

You have absolutely no idea what McCain said or didn't say. You have only Letterman's statements.

 

There are literally dozens of reasons that Letterman could have taken them out of context, including:

 

1. Letterman is liberal, and generally supports Democrats;

.

 

You're saying I can't go back and find HUNDREDS of Bill and/or Hillary jokes by Letterman? Please. He's a comedian. They make fun of people in power. Its their JOB.

 

Yes, he's against THIS administration and he's against the war but don't lose your mind and act like hs' one-sided.

You're saying I can't go back and find HUNDREDS of Bill and/or Hillary jokes by Letterman? Please. He's a comedian. They make fun of people in power. Its their JOB.

 

Yes, he's against THIS administration and he's against the war but don't lose your mind and act like hs' one-sided.

 

I didn't. I said he's liberal. And a Democrat. Did I miss something?

You have absolutely no idea what McCain said or didn't say. You have only Letterman's statements.

 

There are literally dozens of reasons that Letterman could have taken them out of context, including:

 

1. Letterman is liberal, and generally supports Democrats;

2. Olbermann was sitting right there;

3. He had no material, and taking shots at McCain gave him some good material;

 

Evidence that the attack by Letterman was mean-spirited include the Metamucil comment, the failure to reference how many times McCain has been on before, the downplaying of McCain's offer to come on later with Palin, the various shots at Palin, etc. etc. etc.

 

It is an effort in banality to continue discussion of this if you cannot comprehend that comedians such as Letterman often make "jokes" tongue-in-cheek about issues that they in actuality firmly believe, in this case, Letterman's firm belief that he and other media personalities can influence the outcome of politics.

 

"Megalomania" is a preoccupation with one's own estimation of his/her influence. I offer as Exhibit A, Letterman's life work, and do not need to have met him to have formed that opinion.

 

With all due respect, Hearsay, I will just say that being a comedien, or even an entertainer does not make one anymore of a megalomaniac than a lawyer, judge, or politician, chef, or just about any other profession. Megalomaniacs are not defined by their career choices. They are defined by their self-importance. I know quite a few megalomaniacs right here in the "real" "average" world.

 

You are have seemingly assumed that because Letterman is "liberal" and a democrat he is unjustified in his outrage or response.

 

As you, as well, do not know what McCain's exact words are, it leads to the question of: Why attack those who understand Letterman's reaction on the basis of no knowledge of McCain's words, without those words to support your scorn of Letterman's reaction?

I didn't. I said he's liberal. And a Democrat. Did I miss something?

 

There seemed to be an implication that he's one-sided. I don't have any doubt that had this been Obama who told him the same thing and then showed up on Olbermann's show that Letterman's reaction would have been the exact same. Its all about the laugh and that gave Dave something to use.

McCain is on Letterman right now...

McCain is on Letterman right now...

 

I missed it. Baseball game is more important.

I missed it. Baseball game is more important.

 

He's still on.