I'm not saying these people with the 9/11 conspiracy theories are crazy, but these people are crazy...

 

I know this discussion could easily turn into the P and R forum, so I will simply say that you would be surprised how much evidence is out there that raises questions on what happened that day.

 

In sticking with thread title, what those passengers did that day was amazing, now exactly what happened after they stormed the cockpit is something we will never know.

I know this discussion could easily turn into the P and R forum, so I will simply say that you would be surprised how much evidence is out there that raises questions on what happened that day.

 

In sticking with thread title, what those passengers did that day was amazing, now exactly what happened after they stormed the cockpit is something we will never know.

 

It's more like "evidence"...

 

Same as JFK, there are theories but not many facts.

What are some of the 911 conspiracy theories?

What are some of the 911 conspiracy theories?

 

Wow, well if you have any spare time you could just type in 9/11 conspiracy or 9/11 truth and you will get a slew of sites. An interesting website to go to and they cover just about everything is http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

 

After going to that site, on the right hand side you should see a 911 link, click that and it will take you all the stories related to that day in some way.

 

To answer your question, the biggest one is that the planes were flown by remote control into all 3 buildings. This is backed up by the fact that the supposed terrorists could barely fly a small plane as mentioned by the flight instructors at the schools they went to. You also have experienced pilots saying the manuevers that were done to fly into these buildings is almost impossible by even experienced pilots.

 

When the planes transponder was turned off, there was no military response. The FAA calls the government, possibly Dick Cheney and mentions that there is no response from the planes and they are told it's a "military exercise" and not to worry about it.

 

Witnesses spot another plane in the sky over Pennsylvania shortly after Flight 93 "crashed". It's many people's beliefs the plane was shot down after it was found out the passengers had taken over the plane.

 

You have reports of people on the ground saying that they heard bombs going off inside the twin towers. Firefighters in the building are also heard on the radios talking about small bombs going off while they were inside.

 

You have the infamous janitor story who was in the 3rd floor basement, he went to an elevator, flames shot up from below burning his entire body.

 

You have the story about one of the twin towers upper floors being closed a few weeks before 9/11 for "security" reasons. I believe there was also a story about security being changed or not as present on or before 9/11.

 

You have the firefighters on their radios saying the fire is under control, tower is secure, then the buildings collapse. You watch the video of the towers collapsing and it looks like a controlled demolition. You do see what appears to be several charges going over several floors below as the building collapes.

 

You have evidence that no building has ever collapsed because of a fire melting the beams inside.

 

The black boxes from both planes were witnessed being recovered, yet the government says they were destroyed. You have a majority of the steel taken away and put into a scrapyard to avoid any kind of investigation.

 

It just goes on and on. That's only stuff I remembering off the top of my head. You also have the curious incident that the plane that hit the Pentagon did almost a sharp U-Turn to hit the building in the spot it hit. It just happened to hit the one part of the building that was being re-inforced and thereby not many workers in that part of the building.

 

Basically the plane started at 1pm and instead of flying straight in and doing a lot more damage, it flew all the way around to 9pm and hit the building that way.

 

Alright, I think I said enough. :lol:

^ I can believe all of it too.

^ I can believe all of it too.

 

The best way I explain all the supposed "conspiracy" stuff to people is like this. Because there are stories behind Oklahoma City, the first World Trade Center bombing, Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Northwoods and possible Pearl Harbor. All kinds of interesting stuff to read.

 

Anyhoo, the best way I explain it to people is this:

 

Someone tells you a friend of yours is using drugs. You know this friend and defend them and say that they aren't stupid enough to do drugs. A few more people keep telling you the same thing, you keep defending your friend over and over.

 

Eventually the questions and the accusations get overwhelming and you can't help but wonder if something else is there. You get enough questions, you can't help but think something is up.

I'm not buying. The people on the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania had called their loved ones, and told them that Muslims had taken over the plane, and they were going to try and over power them. If the planes were being flown by remote control, why would the Muslims have been on board with knives and box cutters? Don't you think that those on the planes that crashed into the Twin Towers would have noticed that nobody was flying the plane?

No flight manifests have ever been released, I don't think. There is good reason to believe that the very reason for that is because no Muslim names/"supposed terrorists" names would show up on those manifests. You also add to it that we had 18 or 19 names and pictures put up right after the attacks. Yet it turns out that several of those people ended up having nothing to do with the attacks and many were alive and well. Why in the world would they rush that list into the public with incorrect information.

 

And while I can't speak for all the cel phone calls, there is reason to believe many of those were faked/not possible in 2001.

You have the firefighters on their radios saying the fire is under control, tower is secure, then the buildings collapse. You watch the video of the towers collapsing and it looks like a controlled demolition. You do see what appears to be several charges going over several floors below as the building collapes.

 

You have evidence that no building has ever collapsed because of a fire melting the beams inside.

 

 

How many firefighters had previously fought a fire when a 747 full of jet fuel crashes into a skyscraper? Of course no building has ever collapsed, they've also never been hit directly by a 747.

 

As for how the buildings fell. How did everyone expect them to fall? If they were hit from the bottom, it's conceivable that they may topple over, but they weren't. Plus, the structure of the building was such that it is the only way it could go.

 

As for the floors below and the "explosives". Obviously since there was in "implosion" the building collapsed from the inside out. So it's pretty conceivable that the concrete floors collapsed well before the outside of the building, which was the strongest part of the structure. Thus, forcing an "accordian" affect, which blew out all windows a few floors prior to the top collapsing. The way the towers were constructed also lead to the "implosion" affect.

 

I am in an office building that's layered with fire retardant material around the entire structure. This stuff flakes off when a vent is opened or changes direction. I can't imagine that any of it would be left if our building was to be hit by a 747 at 500 mph's. Thus melting the structural steel, like no one has seen.

I watched the movie Flight 93, the other night. Was very disappointed that the "lets roll" saying was not in the final scene.

 

Interesting thread. I am going to have to Google this later in the day.

Funny. The video last night had the conspiracy theorists running the other way from the "controlled demolition" theory. They aren't hanging on that anymore...

 

Did that fireman expect to find full conference tables in tact?

 

And, who would you get to pick up the scraps after this event? Red Cross?

Why do all of the implosions of tall buildings start from the top, except the WTC?

 

At the 1:15 mark, a very similar looking building is imploded. Obviously not the size but, where do the explosives start?

 

I've heard many of the same theories that HC listed earlier. When you put it all together, it sure seems like there was fishy going on. However, the only thing that keeps me doubting that it was in fact a conspiracy is the fact that so many people would have had to be "in on it".

 

Think about it...you'd have to have structural engineers involved to place the dynomite so the buildings would implode like they did. You'd have to have FAA officials that would have go along with the story that the black boxes were "destroyed". Plus you have the military personnel involved in shooting down the plane over Pennsylvania. This is just a small sampling of people that would have to have been willing participants. There is no way that so many people could keep their consciences quiet for all of these years.

I've heard many of the same theories that HC listed earlier. When you put it all together, it sure seems like there was fishy going on. However, the only thing that keeps me doubting that it was in fact a conspiracy is the fact that so many people would have had to be "in on it".

 

Think about it...you'd have to have structural engineers involved to place the dynomite so the buildings would implode like they did. You'd have to have FAA officials that would have go along with the story that the black boxes were "destroyed". Plus you have the military personnel involved in shooting down the plane over Pennsylvania. This is just a small sampling of people that would have to have been willing participants. There is no way that so many people could keep their consciences quiet for all of these years.

 

I have the same feeling about JFK. You're telling me that not ONE person wants to sell a book?