Again, no. Had Obama gotten his way, we wouldn't have been in Iraq, we would have had a higher concentration of troops in Afghanistan. If he had gotten his way, 9/11 would not have been equated with Iraq.

 

I am not to into this debate, but does the fact that he never wanted to be in Iraq excuse of him of all of the things that he has been wrong on that have to do with Iraq (such as the surge)?

This commercial is the rather inept manifestation of the course McCain should have pursued a week ago. McCain sat on his hands while Obama was knee deep in that grandiose world tour, then comes out with this bland effort after the fact.

I am not to into this debate, but does the fact that he never wanted to be in Iraq excuse of him of all of the things that he has been wrong on that have to do with Iraq (such as the surge)?

 

I guess no more then it excuses those that promote a successful surge in a war that has distracted us from the threat in Afghanistan.

Not to highjack a thread but I've wanted to ask this question for a long time. If Obama heard all that we all heard about WD's in Iraq. If Obhama heard Colin Powell, one of the most honest men in the world - IMO, sit there and tell us all that was going on in Iraq. If Obama sat there and listened to everything that everyone else heard and didn't vote to go to war when so many others did, what does that say about him? Even I, who is totally opposed to this war, felt that we should go after everything I heard. If so many people were convinced that we should go to war, after being told all this stuff, why didn't he?

 

That also raises questions for me.

 

This is an excellent point. Obama was not privy to any intelligence information to which his current Congressional colleagues had access. I have never understood how somebody representing a very liberal and anti-war constituency on the south side of Chicago taking a position against invading Iraq is supposed to be an indicator of superior judgment.

 

Obama has shown no inclination to take tough, non-popular positions since he was elected to the US Senate, so why are liberals so sure that he would have opposed the war if he had been a sitting US Senator with access to the same intelligence as Hillary, Kerry, et al.?

There was one member of congress who voted against going to war against Japan also. So just because people have the same intelligence doesn't mean they are going to vote the same way.

Again, no. Had Obama gotten his way, we wouldn't have been in Iraq, we would have had a higher concentration of troops in Afghanistan. If he had gotten his way, 9/11 would not have been equated with Iraq.

Presidents do not get do-overs. Obama was wrong to oppose the surge and what he advocated as an Illinois State Senator is irrelevant to the decisions that he made concerning the surge and his irrational pursuit of a losing strategy in Iraq.

There was one member of congress who voted against going to war against Japan also. So just because people have the same intelligence doesn't mean they are going to vote the same way.

That is very true but Senator Obama has never shown the kind of political courage to be cast the lone unpopular dissenting vote. His record has been one of going with the flow or voting present.

McCain is desperate and will do what ever he needs to do to get votes.

It seems like more people read US Weekly than any other magazine. I'm guessing this comparison made many Americans like Barack Obama even more!:lol:

That is very true but Senator Obama has never shown the kind of political courage to be cast the lone unpopular dissenting vote. His record has been one of going with the flow or voting present.

Except when he spoke out against going to war against Iraq. This might not count as a vote but he did speak out against it.

Except when he spoke out against going to war against Iraq. This might not count as a vote but he did speak out against it.

When Obama took a position against the war, he was speaking for an extremely liberal constituency that was opposed to the war. It was not a courageous or "against the flow" position for him to take. It was the politically popular thing for him to do.

Neither candidate has experience in the following areas:

 

1. state governor
   
2. vice president
   
3. secretary of energy
   
4. secretary of state
   
5. secretary of defense
   
6. and cabinet member for that matter
   

What claim to fame does either have? McCain has had more years in Congress and is a well respected military veteran and former POW, but does that make him that much more then what Obama is?

I can think of a former Democrat candidate that had experience in several of those areas.

I can think of a former Democrat candidate that had experience in several of those areas.

 

I can, too. Alas, my pic did not get the nomination.