April 22, 200818 yr So, if I go swimming in any body of water around here, and someone thinks I may be in trouble and calls 911, I should expect to get arrested? Really? Are there any no swimming signs posted there? I've seen people in the water down there and no one was getting arrested. So does it come back to the point that a good samaritan called 911?No, it comes down to the fact that he needed to have the common sense to know that if he pulls a grand stunt like that in a very busy downtown waterway in front of thousands of exiting fans, somebody is bound to think he needed help. I just don't see how anyone would not realize how horrible an idea that was. I've said it over and over in this thread: It's not about going swimming. It's about doing something that a reasonable person should know has the probability of being misinterpreted.
April 22, 200818 yr This man caused absolutely no problems. He went for a swim in the Ohio River. Big deal. He didn't "induce" any panic. The bystanders induced it upon themselves. Again, common sense would suggest otherwise. It's like streaking. From your bathroom to bedroom -- no problem. Down the middle of Main street -- now you've got yourself a problem. There are some things you just don't do in front of a crowd of people!
April 22, 200818 yr Again, common sense would suggest otherwise. It's like streaking. From your bathroom to bedroom -- no problem. Down the middle of Main street -- now you've got yourself a problem. There are some things you just don't do in front of a crowd of people! If he were swimming nude across the Ohio river, I would agree with you. However, he just didn't break any laws, IMO.
April 22, 200818 yr No, it comes down to the fact that he needed to have the common sense to know that if he pulls a grand stunt like that in a very busy downtown waterway in front of thousands of exiting fans, somebosdy is bound to think he needed help. I just don'e see how anyone would not realize how horrible an idea that was. I've said it over and over in this thread: It's not about going swimming. It's about doing something that a reasonable person should know has the probability of being misinterpreted. Just like it has been put many different ways in this thread. Him being arrested is a matter of legal or illegal activity. He did nothing illegal. Yes it was stupid, yes there COULD HAVE BEEN these accidents you speak of with responding units...but it didnt. The simple fact of the matter is...HE DID NOTHING ILLEGAL. Stupid is not a crime, doing foolish things that are LEGAL is not a crime. This is one of the most ridiculous cases going right now. It should be thrown out. This is why our stinkin legal system is in shambles, we allow this kind of garbage to go on.
April 22, 200818 yr The guy in the river was a moron. But the police were bigger morons by trying to cover their embarrassment over much ado about nothing with a bogus arrest.
April 22, 200818 yr The guy in the river was a moron. But the police were bigger morons by trying to cover their embarrassment over much ado about nothing with a bogus arrest. We're on the same page here.
April 22, 200818 yr The guy in the river was a moron. But the police were bigger morons by trying to cover their embarrassment over much ado about nothing with a bogus arrest. That pretty much sums up my feelings :thumb:
April 22, 200818 yr The guy in the river was a moron. But the police were bigger morons by trying to cover their embarrassment over much ado about nothing with a bogus arrest.I hope he gets a "bogus" year in jail. Some of you folks definitely lack an appreciation for your emergency responders. :irked:
April 22, 200818 yr I hope he gets a "bogus" year in jail. Some of you folks definitely lack an appreciation for your emergency responders. :irked: I love my Covington police force. They're some of the best in the business. But they're not perfect, nor do they get a free pass when they screw up.
April 22, 200818 yr Just like it has been put many different ways in this thread. Him being arrested is a matter of legal or illegal activity. He did nothing illegal. Yes it was stupid, yes there COULD HAVE BEEN these accidents you speak of with responding units...but it didnt. The simple fact of the matter is...HE DID NOTHING ILLEGAL. Stupid is not a crime, doing foolish things that are LEGAL is not a crime. This is one of the most ridiculous cases going right now. It should be thrown out. This is why our stinkin legal system is in shambles, we allow this kind of garbage to go on.According to the law, disorderly conduct (which he committed) is ILLEGAL. Inducing panic (which he clearly did) is ILLEGAL. The fact that someone does not get hurt by a reckless and irresponsible act does not factor into the legality of that act.
April 22, 200818 yr 525.055 Disorderly conduct in the first degree. (1) A person is guilty of disorderly conduct in the first degree when he or she: (a) In a public place and with intent to cause public inconvenience, annoyance, or alarm, or wantonly creating a risk thereof: 1. Engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous, or threatening behavior; 2. Makes unreasonable noise; or 3. Creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act that serves no legitimate purpose; 525.060 Disorderly conduct in the second degree. (1) A person is guilty of disorderly conduct in the second degree when in a public place and with intent to cause public inconvenience, annoyance, or alarm, or wantonly creating a risk thereof, he: (a) Engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous, or threatening behavior; (b) Makes unreasonable noise; © Refuses to obey an official order to disperse issued to maintain public safety in dangerous proximity to a fire, hazard, or other emergency; or (d) Creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act that serves no legitimate purpose. Sorry, BF, but I just don't see where the police have a leg to stand on.
April 22, 200818 yr 525.055 Disorderly conduct in the first degree. (1) A person is guilty of disorderly conduct in the first degree when he or she: (a) In a public place and with intent to cause public inconvenience, annoyance, or alarm, or wantonly creating a risk thereof: 1. Engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous, or threatening behavior; 2. Makes unreasonable noise; or 3. Creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act that serves no legitimate purpose; 525.060 Disorderly conduct in the second degree. (1) A person is guilty of disorderly conduct in the second degree when in a public place and with intent to cause public inconvenience, annoyance, or alarm, or wantonly creating a risk thereof, he: (a) Engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous, or threatening behavior; (b) Makes unreasonable noise; © Refuses to obey an official order to disperse issued to maintain public safety in dangerous proximity to a fire, hazard, or other emergency; or (d) Creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act that serves no legitimate purpose. Sorry, BF, but I just don't see where the police have a leg to stand on. thank you!
April 22, 200818 yr 525.055 Disorderly conduct in the first degree. (1) A person is guilty of disorderly conduct in the first degree when he or she: (a) In a public place and with intent to cause public inconvenience, annoyance, or alarm, or wantonly creating a risk thereof: 1. Engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous, or threatening behavior; 2. Makes unreasonable noise; or 3. Creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act that serves no legitimate purpose; 525.060 Disorderly conduct in the second degree. (1) A person is guilty of disorderly conduct in the second degree when in a public place and with intent to cause public inconvenience, annoyance, or alarm, or wantonly creating a risk thereof, he: (a) Engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous, or threatening behavior; (b) Makes unreasonable noise; © Refuses to obey an official order to disperse issued to maintain public safety in dangerous proximity to a fire, hazard, or other emergency; or (d) Creates a hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act that serves no legitimate purpose. Sorry, BF, but I just don't see where the police have a leg to stand on. You just underlined the wrong parts there. :thumb:
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