And if you believe someone has broken the law, then it should be reported and the perpetrators prosecuted and punished accordingly, which is also the law of the land. Hasn't happened here. I assume, being such a fervent believer in the law, that you also believe Bush is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law?

 

 

:lol: What makes you think Bush would actually show up for his court date? He (and his minions) have thumbed their collective noses at every mechanism of accountability before which they have been asked to stand.

 

Look, FISA says wiretaps must be reviewed by a third party within a certain time after their initiation. Under the law, they can't just be applied in an unsupervised manner with zero oversight by a third party. This is very clear. This is just one example of many highly "creative" interpretations of law by this administration.

 

If we allow every law we have to be "followed" with such a willful distortion, we will quickly find we have no order whatsoever.

:lol: What makes you think Bush would actually show up for his court date? He (and his minions) have thumbed their collective noses at every mechanism of accountability before which they have been asked to stand.

 

Look, FISA says wiretaps must be reviewed by a third party within a certain time after their initiation. Under the law, they can't just be applied in an unsupervised manner with zero oversight by a third party. This is very clear. This is just one example of many highly "creative" interpretations of law by this administration.

 

If we allow every law we have to be "followed" with such a willful distortion, we will quickly find we have no order whatsoever.

 

I am reminded of Shakespeare's "kill all the lawyers," in proper context, of course.

 

You also mentioned the unconstitutionality of Bush's use of signing statements, and I was curious what gave rise to that opinion.

According to a survey of more than 1,000 Americans at least 18 years of age, a majority of Americans characterized their lives as "generally happy," while slightly more than half said they were "very happy." More than 80 percent of those polled expressed satisfaction with their personal lives while a slight majority said their lives were "very" satisfying.

If we're "in a ditch" people seem pretty OK with it.

 

 

If most people are pretty OK with the direction GWB and his Republican enablers have taken the country in, they sure have a funny way of expressing it in the voting booth, don't you think?

If most people are pretty OK with the direction GWB and his Republican enablers have taken the country in, they sure have a funny way of expressing it in the voting booth, don't you think?

For being "in a ditch", they're awfully happy, don't you think?

For being "in a ditch", they're awfully happy, don't you think?

 

I couldn't be happier RTS---can't speak for H though---he acts a little grumpy. :dancingpa

As some one stated earlier Henry Kissinger said that history will remember Bush fondly, and I trust Kissinger's opinion as much as anyone alive when it comes to these matters. To say Bush has ran this country in to the ground just isn't true, as has already been pointed out the only 2 things people say about Bush are the war and Iraq and gas prices. Frankly I haven't seen one person that could tell me with a straight face and not be lying that we are safer in America with Saddam in power, also as the email said gas prices are higher because of world demand. We in America have been living in a bubble for years with our gas prices which have been outrageously low by world standards and now that they are becoming about even with the rest of the world we just don't know what to do.

That was me. And I have been saying for awhile to anyone that will listen that Bush will go down in history as one of our better Presidents.:walk:

You also mentioned the unconstitutionality of Bush's use of signing statements, and I was curious what gave rise to that opinion.

 

Article 1, Section 7

 

Every bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States; if he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the objections at large on their journal, and proceed to reconsider it.

 

Please find for me any (explicit) provision in our Constitution which allows a President to selectively excise portions of a bill during the act of signing it into law.

> Let's start local. You've been sold a bill of goods by politicians and the news media. Polls show that the majority of you think the economy is in the tank. >

 

I'm not smart enough to know if we're in a recession or not so I listen to others. The Oracle of Omaha says we're in a recession. His opinion carries a lot of weight.

I'm not smart enough to know if we're in a recession or not so I listen to others. The Oracle of Omaha says we're in a recession. His opinion carries a lot of weight.

 

 

Had to look that up. I've never heard him called that before.

When Congress falls all over itself to give out rebate checks in the name of an "economic stimulus package," I would say that's a sign that all indications are the economy is in a downturn.

Puppet just like my last boss was!

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Puppet just like my last boss was!

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Pardon me?