What do you see when you look at Obama, who advocated allowing babies who survived botched abortions to die without medical attention? Does that not meet the nut job criteria? I am not a Huckabee supporter, but any Obama supporter who attempts to paint him as an extremist has credibility issues, IMO. Huckabee is clearly more moderate than the most liberal US Senator.

 

When have I said that I have decided to support Obama?!?!! I thought I made it clear before that I have yet to decide who I am voting for.

What he may claim and what he actually is are two different things. After all he had to have that edge in the primaries because no one else was taking that stance as being the most conservative, it was his best chance to win. A nut job, I'm curious as to why? He is laid back, can joke around yet be serious at a flip of a coin and play the bass in a rock n' roll band. He survived getting married at age 18 while attending college and also while his wife was diagnosed with Cancer, extremely religious and has won a governor seat.

 

He's very conservative. Very anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-people who suffer from aids, anti-good jokes etc...

When have I said that I have decided to support Obama?!?!! I thought I made it clear before that I have yet to decide who I am voting for.

I made no assertion that you were supporting Obama. I was only comparing Huckabee, who you said you see as a "nut job" to Obama (the subject of the thread) and asking whether you also see Obama, who has facilitated infanticide, as a "nut job." Do you?

I made no assertion that you were supporting Obama. I was only comparing Huckabee, who you said you see as a "nut job" to Obama (the subject of the thread) and asking whether you also see Obama, who has facilitated infanticide, as a "nut job." Do you?

 

It's possible that he is one...but I don't see as much evidence of it as I do for Huckabee. But I'm sure he is a nut job as well. Most politicians are, but Huckabee is a little wackier than the others IMO.

It's possible that he is one...but I don't see as much evidence of it as I do for Huckabee. But I'm sure he is a nut job as well. Most politicians are, but Huckabee is a little wackier than the others IMO.

I believe that anybody who would fight in favor of abortinists' "right" to commit infanticide by allowing the victims of botched abortions to die alone in dirty linen rooms with no medical attention qualifies as a nut job. (Marrying a nutty, race-baiting woman who believes that she has lived a tough life after graduating from two Ivy League schools and "earning" a $300,000/year salary does noting to diminish my opinion of Barrack Hussein Obama.)

I believe that anybody who would fight in favor of abortinists' "right" to commit infanticide by allowing the victims of botched abortions to die alone in dirty linen rooms with no medical attention qualifies as a nut job. (Marrying a nutty, race-baiting woman who believes that she has lived a tough life after graduating from two Ivy League schools and "earning" a $300,000/year salary does noting to diminish my opinion of Barrack Hussein Obama.)

 

I agree!:thumb:

I believe that anybody who would fight in favor of abortinists' "right" to commit infanticide by allowing the victims of botched abortions to die alone in dirty linen rooms with no medical attention qualifies as a nut job. (Marrying a nutty, race-baiting woman who believes that she has lived a tough life after graduating from two Ivy League schools and "earning" a $300,000/year salary does noting to diminish my opinion of Barrack Hussein Obama.)

 

I wouldn't mind seeing a link to what you are talking about. I've never read anything on this.

I wouldn't mind seeing a link to what you are talking about. I've never read anything on this.

Link

 

 

“Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights. Obama's clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed.”

 

 

Barack Hussein Obama:

 

Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007)

Trust women to make own decisions on partial-birth abortion. (Apr 2007)

Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)

He's very conservative. Very anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-people who suffer from aids, anti-good jokes etc...

 

He was the most social conservative in the running. I struggle to call anyone who has really been in the race a conservative, except for Romney (kind of) who was also a flip-flopper from earlier in his life.

That and what he's told by liberal professors in college. :thumb:

 

:lol: Because you know where I heard the statistics I mentioned, and you know all of my professors?

Link

 

 

“Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights. Obama's clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed.”

 

 

Barack Hussein Obama:

 

Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007)

Trust women to make own decisions on partial-birth abortion. (Apr 2007)

Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)

 

I'm not saying your lying, or that your link is wrong...

 

But it's funny that you provided a link from catholic.org on an abortion issue.

I'm not saying your lying, or that your link is wrong...

 

But it's funny that you provided a link from catholic.org on an abortion issue.

Not that I really care, but why is it even worth mentioning then?

Barack Obama on Abortion:

 

Trust women to make own decisions on partial-birth abortion

Q: What us your view on the decision on partial-birth abortion and your reaction to most of the public agreeing with the court's holding?

 

A: I think that most Americans recognize that this is a profoundly difficult issue for the women and families who make these decisions. They don't make them casually. And I trust women to make these decisions in conjunction with their doctors and their families and their clergy. And I think that's where most Americans are. Now, when you describe a specific procedure that accounts for less than 1% of the abortions that take place, then naturally, people get concerned, and I think legitimately so. But the broader issue here is: Do women have the right to make these profoundly difficult decisions? And I trust them to do it. There is a broader issue: Can we move past some of the debates around which we disagree and can we start talking about the things we do agree on? Reducing teen pregnancy; making it less likely for women to find themselves in these circumstances.

 

Extend presumption of good faith to abortion protesters

[An abortion protester at a campaign event] handed me a pamphlet. "Mr. Obama, I know you're a Christian, with a family of your own. So how can you support murdering babies?"

 

I told him I understood his position but had to disagree with it. I explained my belief that few women made the decision to terminate a pregnancy casually; that any pregnant woman felt the full force of the moral issues involved when making that decision; that I feared a ban on abortion would force women to seek unsafe abortions, as they had once done in this country. I suggested that perhaps we could agree on ways to reduce the number of women who felt the need to have abortions in the first place.

 

"I will pray for you," the protester said. "I pray that you have a change of heart." Neither my mind nor my heart changed that day, nor did they in the days to come. But that night, before I went to bed, I said a prayer of my own-that I might extend the same presumption of good faith to others that had been extended to me.

Source: The Audacity of Hope, by Barack Obama, p.197-8 Oct 1, 2006

 

Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives.

Vote to adopt an amendment to the Senate's 2006 Fiscal Year Budget that allocates $100 million for the prevention of unintended pregnancies. A YES vote would expand access to preventive health care services that reduce unintended pregnancy (including teen pregnancy), reduce the number of abortions, and improve access to women's health care. A YES vote would:

 

* Increase funding and access to family planning services

* Funds legislation that requires equitable prescription coverage for contraceptives under health plans

* Funds legislation that would create and expand teen pregnancy prevention programs and education programs concerning emergency contraceptives

LINK

Can we move past some of the debates around which we disagree and can we start talking about the things we do agree on?

 

Let's ignore the things that people don't like about me, and only talk about things that we all agree on. That way, I don't have to say anything concrete about political policies.

Not that I really care, but why is it even worth mentioning then?

 

Don't you think their opinions on the matter might be a little skewed by their personal beliefs?

 

I used to get nailed here all the time for providing "biased" links.