How much would a teacher with 11 years in be making? Would $40,000 be a reasonable guess?

Some teachers go above and beyond and put in countless amount of hours for their students that they do not get credit for.

 

Some coaches go above and beyond and put in countless amount of hours for their students that they do not get credit for.

 

Fact is some teachers do this, some don't. Some coaches do it, some don't. But to say that one is more important than the other is false.

 

Sorry I know I said I wouldn't post again on this thread but I felt compelled to do so.

 

I agree wholeheartedly with this statement!!:thumb:

Multi-Cultural Education

Multiple Intelligences Theory

Change in Standards due to NCLB

 

.....off the top of my head

 

So these "changes" would apply to "the ones that have been teaching the same subject for 25 years and don't have to research it to know it inside or out."

How much would a teacher with 11 years in be making? Would $40,000 be a reasonable guess?

 

18 years of experience here.

about $42,000 with a coaching salary added in.

It's not the content, its the BS factor. For instance, in certain parts of Ohio teachers have had to transfer every single lesson plan that they use for their class over to a computer format(I think Powerpoint?). I'm sure in a year or two the standards or the format will change again, and the whole process has to repeated. This doesn't even address the changing of overall policies like NCLB or state mandated testing.

 

So the subject hasn't changed at all, only the way the State makes you teach it or format it? So you don't have to learn anything new re math, science, English, etc.?

So these "changes" would apply to "the ones that have been teaching the same subject for 25 years and don't have to research it to know it inside or out."

 

Yep.

 

To give you and example, I used to teach an economics unit. After 13 years of it, I had a pretty good knowledge of it.

 

When portfolios and open response questions came into play then I had to redo my lessons on it to include portfolio prompts and open response questions.

 

My lesson plans had to change to note not the changes in supply and demand but rather the changes in the way we were required to teach Supply and demand.

That's interesting. Give me some examples of how grade school math has changed.

 

I was never a math teacher, but I worked with plenty over the past few years. As a result, I've seen how teachers have struggled with the fact that math has changed. Obviously, 2+2 will forever and always be 4, but you might be surprised to see how often the pedagogy for teaching a subject changes. In the district I've been associated with, each year there always seemed to a teaching strategy emphasis that we as teachers were supposed to bring into our classrooms regularly. Some examples of these techniques include the incorporation of discovery based learning, increasing open-ended questioning, becoming more of a facilitator for discussion rather than the focus of discussion, differentiating lessons for diverse learners and on and on and on. Hopefully you see that though

2 + 2 = 4, the methods at getting the kids to realize that are constantly changing. Teachers feel the pressure to utilize these new, research based techniques in their classrooms. This of course requires many hours of practice and lots of time taking advantage of PD.

 

To put it more simply, math doesn't change, but math instruction does. For example, I know over the past couple years there was a big push in Northern Kentucky for instruction in connected math. I believe the connected math series that was to be taught utilized more hands-on learning and approached topics in a different sequence than what teachers were used to. To prepare for this transition teachers at the district where I worked spent literally weeks in the summer and many Saturdays during the school year learning this new way of teaching connected math.

 

Hope this gives a little insight in response to your comment.

No wonder too many kids feel education is not important. They are told it is but the actions of society says it isn't. And actions speak louder than words.

 

In established programs, coaching football, salary as well as job retention, is based on success. I'm not disagreeing with you on the backwards priority, but perhaps there would not be such a discrepancy if we based teacher salary on success.

Anyone able to substantiate the $100,000? It should be public knowledge... I find this too hard to swallow for any high school football coach. Kentucky or Texas! I find it more difficult if the money is being culled from Frankforts' educational subsidy! I did not say the "K" word...

If the football coach is making 100K which girl's coach is making the same? (Title IX)

If the football coach is making 100K which girl's coach is making the same? (Title IX)

 

Title IX is not dollar for dollar. It has to do with the opportunity to have the same advantage no matter if it is male or female. It also is an avg. of dollars depending on the number of athletes per team. If you have 100 student athletes in you school, 35 were male and 65 were female, the percent of dollars the female get would be greater than the male and so it goes for the coaches.

And I don't know any teachers that get 2-3 months off in the summer or who get off every federal holiday. In addition, teachers spend time on Sat and Sun doing lesson plans, grading papers, searching the Internet for ways to make their lesson plans more relevant.

 

To ascert that teachers don't work many, many hours is laughable, too.

 

We are both doing a good job of cracking each other up.:lol::thumb:

My gosh, do you have over 25,000 posts? Is that a misprint?:confused:

Leave the guy alone IMO. Go out and find the job that is going to make you $100K a year if your that jealous and think money means so much. I think all school teachers should receive more money period so I can see where the resentment comes from but look at society as a whole.

 

CEO's making ridiculous salaries, buying $3000 coat hangers and $1million chandeliers in their homes. Those are the guys that should have a Salary Cap. This guys makes a lot of money but he is working with kids atleast.

If he is worth it why not pay him?

By the way I think teachers are under pay.:irked: