Plato Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 I've seen it on several occasions this year (and again tonight in the UK game). A kid gets a foul called on him. The kid bounce passes the ball to the ref who called the foul and the ref gets offended because he wasn't looking and the ball hits him. I've even seen a kid try to hand the ball to the ref and the ref gets offended and hits the ball away as if the kid is out of line. I understand that the ref has to report the foul to the table, but I'm not sure the kids do. Is the kid out of line for not knowing (I'm not talking about when a kid shows attitude)? Is the ref out of line? Is this something that needs to be addressed in the pre-game huddle?
thewaterboy Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 This happened at a game I was at tonight after kid had been assessed a T he "lobbed" the ball at the ref who then turned to the scores table and didn't see the ball and got hit by the ball....., I think some (key word some) officials need to set their ego's aside and realize that everyone does not do things to make them mad on purpose. IMO some officials wouldnt make it 10 minutes in a classroom once they realized that T sign means nothing
Ms Liberty Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 This happened at a game I was at tonight after kid had been assessed a T he "lobbed" the ball at the ref who then turned to the scores table and didn't see the ball and got hit by the ball....., I think some (key word some) officials need to set their ego's aside and realize that everyone does not do things to make them mad on purpose. IMO some officials wouldnt make it 10 minutes in a classroom once they realized that T sign means nothing TRUE:thumb:
True blue (and gold) Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 This happened at a game I was at tonight after kid had been assessed a T he "lobbed" the ball at the ref who then turned to the scores table and didn't see the ball and got hit by the ball....., I think some (key word some) officials need to set their ego's aside and realize that everyone does not do things to make them mad on purpose. IMO some officials wouldnt make it 10 minutes in a classroom once they realized that T sign means nothing :laugh: You are right. You have to have a whole different arsenal there!
malachicrunch Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 If the off referee doesn't come to you to get the ball, just set it on the floor.
LRCW Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 IMO some officials wouldnt make it 10 minutes in a classroom once they realized that T sign means nothing That kind of thinking is exactly why we have the problems we do in our schools today. That's why you see kids today with no respect for teachers, or anyone for that matter. They know there's no discipline in schools, and that they can get by with being disrespectful to teachers, and others.
LRCW Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 If the off referee doesn't come to you to get the ball, just set it on the floor. Exactly. There are two other officials on the court.
sweet16 Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 If the off referee doesn't come to you to get the ball, just set it on the floor. I think it looks worse when the players set the ball on the floor.
B2020 Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 I can't speak for college officials, but high school officials are taught not to worry about the ball. If the official calls a foul, he doesn't want to go report the foul w/ the ball in his hand. Plus the ball will be put in play at the spot that official just left. So if he/she calls a foul and the player tosses them the ball, you'll see them drop it. In addition to that, it's not the officials' job to chase the ball when it kicks away somewhere. They usually ask the players to help them out and go get it. I agree 100% it looks bad when the player just puts the ball on the floor. I've seen that happen for instance when a kid gets called for travelling, lays the ball on the court and walks away. I think that's very disrespectful.
sweet16 Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 I agree 100% it looks bad when the player just puts the ball on the floor. I've seen that happen for instance when a kid gets called for travelling, lays the ball on the court and walks away. I think that's very disrespectful. :thumb:
FB15G8 Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 That kind of thinking is exactly why we have the problems we do in our schools today. That's why you see kids today with no respect for teachers, or anyone for that matter. They know there's no discipline in schools, and that they can get by with being disrespectful to teachers, and others. Both of LRCW post are right on line. The players should look to an off official to relay the ball. Athletes need to be school leaders and playing sports for your school is earned. Earned with hard work in the classroom, on the fields/courts, and in the community. If you can't be respectful when you are 18 and under, then you will struggle as an adult.
FB15G8 Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Also, a pretty good thread to address as well. Often players will do this stuff and then act like they don't know....lets go ahead and let them know what to do.
thewaterboy Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Both of LRCW post are right on line. The players should look to an off official to relay the ball. Athletes need to be school leaders and playing sports for your school is earned. Earned with hard work in the classroom, on the fields/courts, and in the community. If you can't be respectful when you are 18 and under, then you will struggle as an adult. Maybe all of the conference assigners should also come to every game and brief the players of each teams on the rules, I am still sure that 90% of the kids dont even realize we went from two officials to three in major high school games. The kids dont understand "off officials", officials need to realize just like some coaches, that they are there, paid by the school system, to perform a service for the kids, not for the betterment of their own career. :thumb:
TubbyCAT Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 I use to have a local official talk to some of my players about some of the rules and so forth when I was still coaching. It always seem to work and it ALWAYS helped. As far as discipline in the classroom. I think a great deal of that starts at home. I know my sons know how to act in school and to respect their teachers and administrators because myself, their mother, and their step-mother have taught them how to act and how to respect their elders and those in charge!
TubbyCAT Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 The bottom line is this: If there is No game then there is no: coaches, players, officials, student cheering sections, cheerleaders, fans, or sites like this to debate things. It sounds obvious, but at times we all overlook the importance of the game.
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