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Playoff change?

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Alternatives to high gas prices are spirit or pep buses for fans that pay a small fee. No big deal. Switching back to the old way is better for football IMO.

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I know money rules all BUT the bottom line to me is how exciting is it to get ready for a team in the first playoff game that you have already beaten very badly in the regular season and conversely how much fun can it be to practice another week to play a team that's already beaten you very soundly. Playing teams from another district give a true "new season" feel to the playoff for all teams involved.

No one besides coldweatherfan is addressing the rotating districts. Leatherneck drives home my point about the tremendous costs if you have a mountain district matched up against a northern Kentucky district where you would have THREE rounds of games with over four hours of travel. If you are playing the neighboring district (1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8) as in the past, the travel will be much, much more reasonable.

I know money rules all BUT the bottom line to me is how exciting is it to get ready for a team in the first playoff game that you have already beaten very badly in the regular season and conversely how much fun can it be to practice another week to play a team that's already beaten you very soundly. Playing teams from another district give a true "new season" feel to the playoff for all teams involved.

 

I agree that it may be more fun to play someone else in the first two rounds, but you are right in stating that money rules all, particulalry when the state is talking about cutting the state money going to the school districts. Fun may have to take a back seat to this issue if the data indicates that the current formula isn't hurting the gates but is reducing travel expenses.

I agree that it may be more fun to play someone else in the first two rounds, but you are right in stating that money rules all, particulalry when the state is talking about cutting the state money going to the school districts. Fun may have to take a back seat to this issue if the data indicates that the current formula isn't hurting the gates but is reducing travel expenses.

 

The added numbers of fans does not more than offset the transportaion expenses which come off the top of gate receipts?

 

Locally, the first two rounds attendance was not good. Northern KY would bring more fans than those schools in our district for the first two rounds.

 

I have no idea how well state teams travel that are not 6A, with the exception of the more prominent programs.

No one besides coldweatherfan is addressing the rotating districts. Leatherneck drives home my point about the tremendous costs if you have a mountain district matched up against a northern Kentucky district where you would have THREE rounds of games with over four hours of travel. If you are playing the neighboring district (1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8) as in the past, the travel will be much, much more reasonable.

 

Like I said. All the reasons for static regions are valid. Rotating is a personal choice for me. I played ball in a different state a long time ago. My team was ranked #2, #3, and #2 in the state my soph - sen years. But the playoffs were set up that we played the #1 team in the State (#2, #1, & #2 in the country) in the 3rd round every year. Two times they played a team in the championship that we had beaten during the year. Had the regions rotated we would probably have gotten the opportunity to play for the state championship at least once.

 

The same people who are arguing for static regions (because of costs and travel) are arguing against intradistrict in the playoffs (inspite of costs and travel). Three years ago, I know Henry County had to travel 3 1/2 hours to Russell for a fisrt round game.

 

I'm not a proponent of intradistrict playoffs. But, why is it that no one has a problem with all other high school sports having intradistrict playoffs. However, in football everyone wants the playoffs to be against teams from another district?

Julian Tackett said it would change back to the old way.He didnt say in the quote if it would be 2008 or 2009.

 

I saw in Lexington Paper I believe Sunday Jan 19 or 12 that Tackett said it was going to change back to the old way. That member schools where in favor of it by an overhelming majority.I believe was the words he used.

The added numbers of fans does not more than offset the transportaion expenses which come off the top of gate receipts?

 

Locally, the first two rounds attendance was not good. Northern KY would bring more fans than those schools in our district for the first two rounds.

 

I have no idea how well state teams travel that are not 6A, with the exception of the more prominent programs.

 

Could be the case. We'll see what the KHSAA does after it gets the data.

I saw in Lexington Paper I believe Sunday Jan 19 or 12 that Tackett said it was going to change back to the old way. That member schools where in favor of it by an overhelming majority.I believe was the words he used.

 

I saw that also but think either Julian misspoke or was misquoted. From what I understand the KHSAA has not decided yet what they are going to do with this issue. There is no doubt that the overwhelming majority of football coaches surveyed wants to go back, but as I stated earlier, I'm not sure if the superintendents agree with them. We'll see I'm sure in the next couple of months.

Like I said. All the reasons for static regions are valid. Rotating is a personal choice for me. I played ball in a different state a long time ago. My team was ranked #2, #3, and #2 in the state my soph - sen years. But the playoffs were set up that we played the #1 team in the State (#2, #1, & #2 in the country) in the 3rd round every year. Two times they played a team in the championship that we had beaten during the year. Had the regions rotated we would probably have gotten the opportunity to play for the state championship at least once.

 

The same people who are arguing for static regions (because of costs and travel) are arguing against intradistrict in the playoffs (inspite of costs and travel). Three years ago, I know Henry County had to travel 3 1/2 hours to Russell for a fisrt round game.

 

I'm not a proponent of intradistrict playoffs. But, why is it that no one has a problem with all other high school sports having intradistrict playoffs. However, in football everyone wants the playoffs to be against teams from another district?

 

It could be that it's not unusual to play someone multiple times in baseball and basketball, but it's very rare in football.

I prefer playing the opposite district, but I'm much more concerned about the rotating regions. If it means the regions stay the same every year, I can live with playing within the district for the first two rounds.

For what it's worth . . . I think the crowds (ie. revenue) for playoff games will be better for a game against an opponent from another district. Repeating games played a few weeks earlier lessens the appeal of the game. It may save on expenses, but I think it will hurt the bottom line overall to start the playoffs back in the district. Penny wise, pound foolish. IMHO

 

How would the crowds be bigger, The less travel that is involved for the fans makes me feel that playing in the district would bring in alot more people out to the games. Only the real die hards would be willing to drive 2 hours to watch a game. Nobody cares to drive 30 minutes. Plus it makes for more of a rival game when u play in district. I know I'm in the minority on here, but I for one liked the playoffs(PLAYOFFS?) last year.:ylsuper:

I saw that also but think either Julian misspoke or was misquoted. From what I understand the KHSAA has not decided yet what they are going to do with this issue. There is no doubt that the overwhelming majority of football coaches surveyed wants to go back, but as I stated earlier, I'm not sure if the superintendents agree with them. We'll see I'm sure in the next couple of months.

 

I spoke with a person at the KHSAA, whom confirmed that a change back to the old system has NOT yet taken place. It may be considered this Spring. Attached is a link to the article some folks may have been referring to: http://www.kentucky.com/289/story/290094.html

 

The article says it is likely to occur and quotes Julian Tackett saying there is overwhelming support from the schools for the change. From what I understand, Julian was referring to feedback from the football coaches; not necessarily the supers. Bottom line is there has been no change at this point.

How would the crowds be bigger, The less travel that is involved for the fans makes me feel that playing in the district would bring in alot more people out to the games. Only the real die hards would be willing to drive 2 hours to watch a game. Nobody cares to drive 30 minutes. Plus it makes for more of a rival game when u play in district. I know I'm in the minority on here, but I for one liked the playoffs(PLAYOFFS?) last year.:ylsuper:

 

That's the logic I was using also C21.

I spoke with a person at the KHSAA, whom confirmed that a change back to the old system has NOT yet taken place. It may be considered this Spring. Attached is a link to the article some folks may have been referring to: http://www.kentucky.com/289/story/290094.html

 

The article says it is likely to occur and quotes Julian Tackett saying there is overwhelming support from the schools for the change. From what I understand, Julian was referring to feedback from the football coaches; not necessarily the supers. Bottom line is there has been no change at this point.

 

Did your contact say if they were going back to the top two teams from each district making the playoffs? Just from this quote in the above article, it appears that two teams are going to the playoffs. "before a change was make two years ago", leads me to think they may be going back to the way it was then.

• Good news for football coaches and fans. It appears likely that the KHSAA is going to tweak the playoffs so that teams play outside their district in the first two rounds of the post-season. That's the way it used to be before a change was made two years ago in an attempt to cut costs by reducing travel. But most coaches and fans didn't like having rematches with district rivals the first two weeks of the playoffs. Julian Tackett of the KHSAA said that was the "overwhelming feedback from member schools."

I wonder whether regular season ticket sales were impacted by the scheduling of intradistrict playoff games. In many cases, teams played late in the season and again in the first round of the playoffs. I wonder if this had the affect of reducing attendance at the regular season meeting and if the khsaa can/will take this into consideration.

 

For example, by the time Eastern played Ballard in the 9th game, everyone new they would play again 2 weeks later in the playoffs. I would imagine attendance was affected. I am certain interest in the game was reduced significantly. In the long term, interest in the game = more money.

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