Wes Welker

[stick1]

Moss gets all the pub but I honestly think if Welker were to go down that the Pats would get beat. This guy has quitely had an amazing year and as good as Moss is, he is the ultimate compliment. If you are going to roll coverage and lockdown your best corner 1on1 with Stallworth or Gaffney on the other side then Welker will have a 9 catch game with guys that have no shot to cover him. He is an amazing matchup problem! The option routes he runs are almost impossible to stop and to me he is the cog in the offense that doesn't get the credit he deserves. Moss can go get it in double coverage and makes Brady look good on bad throws but Welker gives people fits when gameplanning IMO.

[saint4]

I second that! Very underrated and a very good teammate to have.

[cch5432]

The guy does his job well, but there are many receivers that could (physically) do his job, but would prefer not to. IMO, he plays the same role as TJ Houshmanzadeh. If he went down, I think they could plug Gaffney or even Kelly Washington into his role and they would be fine. Without him, they would survive, they have too many weapons.

 

Definently a fine guy to have on a team, who plays a brutal role, but him being out wouldn't cripple the Patriots.

[Hangman]

I'm a fan of everything except the uniform he wears...

 

Come to the Seahawks, Wes! You might never win a Super Bowl, but you'll have all kinds of division titles... Wait, you've got that at NE too.. Darn... You might never win a Super Bowl but you'll get to play in a state of the art facility.. Wait, you've got that at NE too... You might never win a Super Bowl but you'll get to play with a Pro Bowl QB.. Wait, you've got that at NE too.

 

Come to Seattle, Wes! We've got grunge music! In your face, Tom Brady.

[happy ol' dad]

Moss makes Welker what he is....

[TubbyCAT]

Randy Moss helps elevate any receivers game due to the attention he demands. However, Wes Welker is a VERY good wide-out who knows his role and performs at a very high level!!!!

[cvillecat]

Moss makes Welker what he is....

 

Moss does make everyone around him better but Welker is a heck of a WR in his own right. His route running ability is second to none. What makes him stand out from the others is he goes hard every play and is not afraid to take a hit and is one of the better blocking WR's in the game.

[stick1]

Moss makes Welker what he is....

 

I agree with that but I also think that the Pats aren't nearly as good if Welker isn't in there as a compliment. I don't agree that the others could play his role that well. To me Welker is much like a Meggett or Metcalff. Explosive, shifty underneath that make huge yds after the catch.

[stinkyboy II]

Explosive, shifty underneath that make huge yds after the catch.

 

This is the difference. Moss does open things up for him underneath, but he regularly turns a 6 pass pattern into 15 and 20 yard gains. If they separated the postions into wide receiver and slot receiver, he would be going to the Pro Bowl.

[stick1]

Explosive, shifty underneath that make huge yds after the catch.

 

This is the difference. Moss does open things up for him underneath, but he regularly turns a 6 pass pattern into 15 and 20 yard gains. If they separated the postions into wide receiver and slot receiver, he would be going to the Pro Bowl.

 

I agree with you 100%. I'm not trying to take anything away from Moss as I think he is one of the best 2 too ever play the game but I don't think Welker gets the credit he desereves. He has been their go to guy all year on 3rd down too which keeps the drives alive.

[born2reign]

Moss is the key. He brings every weapon a receiver can possess to the table and defenses scheme and gameplan to take him away so heavily, that other guys can exploit that for their numbers. Take Moss away and Welker becomes VERY coverable. The only deep threat would be Stallworth, who can be handled by most secondaries in the NFL. Everyone else is an underneath guy that can be handled by zones or DBs.

 

Welker is a nice player, no doubt, but Moss is the key to the receiving corps. Welker is a good compliment.

[stick1]

Moss is the key. He brings every weapon a receiver can possess to the table and defenses scheme and gameplan to take him away so heavily, that other guys can exploit that for their numbers. Take Moss away and Welker becomes VERY coverable. The only deep threat would be Stallworth, who can be handled by most secondaries in the NFL. Everyone else is an underneath guy that can be handled by zones or DBs.

 

Welker is a nice player, no doubt, but Moss is the key to the receiving corps. Welker is a good compliment.

 

Moss is probably one of the best two WR's in history so there is no doubt you gameplan around him. The point I was trying to make is that Welker has quitely had a huge year and when people try to take Moss away he is the thron in the side that keeps the chains moving.

[born2reign]

Moss is probably one of the best two WR's in history so there is no doubt you gameplan around him. The point I was trying to make is that Welker has quitely had a huge year and when people try to take Moss away he is the thron in the side that keeps the chains moving.

 

I thought your point from your original post was that without Welker, the Pats are beatable. This point, in my opinion, is incorrect based on the facts that I stated.

 

If your point is Welker is good, then I concur. He is good.

[buzzer beater]

Welker is the man, and if the Pat's didn't have him then I don't believe they would be 17-0 right now...

[stick1]

I thought your point from your original post was that without Welker, the Pats are beatable. This point, in my opinion, is incorrect based on the facts that I stated.

 

If your point is Welker is good, then I concur. He is good.

 

I think both. I think if Welker isn't playing then the Pats are MUCH more beatable and I also think he is a heck of a player. No doubt he's better because of guys like Moss/Brady but I don't think he gets the credit he deserves this year by most. If you watch the Pats he is the guy that creates the most mismatches and the guy that keeps the chains moving on 3rd down most of the time. He also is the guy that makes defenses pay if they try to overcompensate in other areas.