Ram Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 The discussion about the Franklin offense began to come down to, "who has been successful and won with the Franklin offense?". To start with it is a fairly new offense, by name. But, I think we are fooling ourselves by thinking that the Franklin offense is new. It's only new by name, and a new twist on existing offenses. What is the perfect football offense? This is a simple question, just name the best offense. Surely most of us people who claim to know so much about football can name the offense that is most successful and best. How hard could it be? Single Wing, Double Wing, Wishbone, T Formation, I Formation, Power I, Wing T, Spread, West Coast, Run and Shoot, Franklin, Spread Option, or Veer; which is the best? The simple fact is that there is no perfect football offense. If there were, every football coach that knew anything about football would be running the same offense. If one offense was the "Best", then every coach would know this and have to run it, if it had a clear cut advantage over all the other offenses. The perfect offense is the offense that best uses the personnel that a coach has. And, the perfect offense is adaptable to those personnel needs. There are many offenses that are adaptable dependent on what your needs are. Some offenses allow you to only have one great back, some allow the use of two great backs, some are better if you have a strong armed QB, some allow you to use a less qualified QB. Some offenses need a strong offensive line, others allow you to make due with a weaker offensive line. Some offenses require quality receivers, some offenses allow you execute with lesser quality receivers. The measuring stick is what can you do with the talent that you have. You don't want your offense to be one dimensional, or predictable. You have to have an offense that is appropriate for your personnel, and that is adaptable to your personnel changes over time. You want an offense that is adaptable mainly because you don't want to change offenses every time your personnel changes. You want an offense that is second nature by the time a player is a junior or senior. A new trend lately is to use multiple offenses. The, I won't use the word old, more experienced coaches, use to swear by a particular offense. But, as of late, most coaches who run the Spread, West Coast, or Franklin offenses, also have a Wishbone set ,or a Wing T set, or a Power I set that they use from time to time. So, what is the perfect offense? The truth is the perfect offense is the offense that allows you to harness the talent that you have and also allows you to exploit the defense that you are facing. That is why they call it coaching.
PepRock01 Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 What is the perfect football offense? Trinity's.
Coach Hard Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 My offense:jump: :flame:Yeah, I set myself up for the heat, but I was just following the leaders.
PepRock01 Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 My offense:jump: :flame:Yeah, I set myself up for the heat, but I was just following the leaders. My bad.
PepRock01 Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Very hard to argue with this. I just can't wait until our first batch of Brohms is ready! :banana: That aside I do feel that the versatility of Trinity's offense and its ability to adapt is one of the things, that I feel, makes it the "perfect" offense.
Knute Rockne Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Why was the same offense avg when Coverdale was at Castle? Just a question?
Big K 61 Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Whatever fits your players. (great nonanswer )
PepRock01 Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Why was the same offense avg when Coverdale was at Castle? Just a question? I am going to let some other posters address this for me: His system wasn't as successful at Castle because the community, school, and kids did not BUY into it.... I will agree and disagree with this. Under Lidy Castle played 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Lidy was a god to alot of that community. When Coverdale came in and tried to run his offense and wasn't winning with it I believe he lost the support. Castle normally isn't loaded with speed. As a matter of fact the best player they have had in the last 10 years was a transfer from Evansville Bosse his junior or senior year. If Coverdale could have won with his system the support would have been there. But all it takes is a few losses with a flashy new offense when people are use to a power run game and you loose support. To add to that Trinity has the numbers to where we were able to switch to that offense more easily than many schools would be able to.
Ram Posted January 16, 2008 Author Posted January 16, 2008 Trinity's. My offense:jump: :flame:Yeah, I set myself up for the heat, but I was just following the leaders. My bad. Very hard to argue with this. Whatever fits your players. (great nonanswer ) I should have seen this coming. A football fanatic wants to talk about the inner workings of offense in the off season and you all go wanting to have fun.
Coach Hard Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 In all honesty, I am a strong believer in finding a system that works with your athletes. The spread stuff is very popular right now and seems to be "spreading", pun intended. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum as a big fan of the double wing and varieties of it. I do have an interesting question though: How many of you guys think that a flashy spread it out offense is more appealing to the fans and administration when compared to a double tight double wing that runs 80-90% of the time? I personally love watching a ground and pound game, and winning is winning. However, I know a lot of folks (usually grandstand coaches that base what they want to see in high school off of what they see on Saturday and Sunday) like to see it aired out.
DocRawlings Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 I think the administration and fans love the passing game but any good coach wants to do what he knows and what fits his athletes. In Ky coachs are getting away form certain defenses (the 50) and going to front that can stop the spread because of its popularity.
Coach Hard Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Well put Doc. You can be a member of my camp any day. I strongly agree, the defenses they are a changing. Not a big deal to see a 3-3-5 or 4-2-5 now days as a base. Imagine seeing that 9 or 10 years ago...
Ram Posted January 16, 2008 Author Posted January 16, 2008 How many of you guys think that a flashy spread it out offense is more appealing to the fans and administration when compared to a double tight double wing that runs 80-90% of the time? I love to watch a quality, run it down your throat offense. I love power football. But, I do admit, that I do like to a watch a quality passing team as well sometimes. I have said it before, I see the Franklin offense that Raceland runs, as a running offense. It is a spread formation with very short passes, and runs after the catch. Not to many down field passes, not more then any other offense. I know it may sound funny but that is how I see it.
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