It seems sort of strange that Owsley would oppose a transfer of one of theirs when the Evans kid played varsity for Wolfe Co. last year. They seem more than willing to benefit from his play for them! His parents still live in Wolfe Co.

 

His parents still live in wolfe county but his grandmother which resides in Owsley County got custody of him. that was the ultimate ruling for him. His grandmother had to get custody of him before he was allowed to play.

I may be wrong and I usually am, but I believe that the recieving school fills out a transfer request form provided by the KHSAA and then sends it to the sending school which must fill out the part required of the sending school. The school must indicate whether or not the student athlete participated in varsity athletics in any sport while attending that school.

If they check yes, then then KHSAA must rule on the transfer. If they check no, then the form is still sent to the KHSAA and then they rule on it, which in that case is elgible. I do not believe that there is a section on the form that allows the sending school to release the student to another school. The only way to do that is to say no to the question of athletic participation at the school. I think the form can be found on the KHSAA website. If the school can release players then Owsley and Breathitt both should release the transfers and let both transfers play.[/quote]

 

 

 

Actually, even if both schools agree to release transfers it still doesn't necessarily mean the KHSAA will rule them eliigible. The transfer still has to meet KHSAA rules and guidelines. It's not totally up to Breathitt or Owsley. The KHSAA has the last word, and in these cases they ruled both student/athletes ineligible.

Schools do have the option as to whether to oppose a transfer or not. They can fill out a form in opposition and then a hearing is scheduled to determine eligability. Most schools don't oppose for the kids sake but some do. This year Owsley chose to oppose the Congleton kids transfer first to Lee Co.(the county in which he did reside and had for most of his life) then when he went to Breathitt.

 

 

Wherever you got this information, it is false. No where in By-law 6 do you find that schools can opt to not oppose a player moving to another school after the student has played a varsity sport. http://www.khsaa.org/handbook/bylaws/bylaw6.pdf. The only way a student could get by with moving is if both administrators from the sending and receiving schools lied on the transfer form, which is not going to happen. I don't imagine that two professionals would do this, even if it was for a student. I also don't know why this is on a forum about Breathitt Co and their problems.

Coach Banks needs to get all of his players back! But from the talk around Perry Co. the boys don't like playing for Coach Banks!

Coach Banks needs to get all of his players back! But from the talk around Perry Co. the boys don't like playing for Coach Banks!

 

One would have to conclude you are correct, for whatever the reason. When watching Beathitt play Buckhorn the other night, either real or imagined, I found myself wondering if a couple of the kids that were playing were really giving as much effort as they might have previously. I mention that because there is another thread about kids quitting and the majority of posters seem to think kids should "stick it out" at all cost. But, if you have unhappy kids, perhaps for legitimate reasons, and they are forced by their parents to continue to play, then you create a whole new list of issues that are subjective, like is he giving his all, etc. I'm not saying that is the case here, just wondering publically.

Wherever you got this information, it is false. No where in By-law 6 do you find that schools can opt to not oppose a player moving to another school after the student has played a varsity sport. http://www.khsaa.org/handbook/bylaws/bylaw6.pdf. The only way a student could get by with moving is if both administrators from the sending and receiving schools lied on the transfer form, which is not going to happen. I don't imagine that two professionals would do this, even if it was for a student. I also don't know why this is on a forum about Breathitt Co and their problems.

I know for a fact that the Congleton kid was not released by the officials at Owsley. A hearing was to be scheduled and the parents chose to relocate him to Breathitt instead of a hearing. I do not know what happened to his eligablity at Breathitt. I have also been involved in players transferring away and we released the student to play the next year. So I have personally seen both ways of a transfer being handled.

Wherever you got this information, it is false. No where in By-law 6 do you find that schools can opt to not oppose a player moving to another school after the student has played a varsity sport. http://www.khsaa.org/handbook/bylaws/bylaw6.pdf. The only way a student could get by with moving is if both administrators from the sending and receiving schools lied on the transfer form, which is not going to happen. I don't imagine that two professionals would do this, even if it was for a student. I also don't know why this is on a forum about Breathitt Co and their problems.

 

That is correct. No school can release a student athlete. They must check yes or no on the question that asks if the student athlete participated in varsity athletics at the sending school. When a school recieves a transfer student that wants to participate in athletics, that school is required to fill out a transfer form provided by the KHSAA and then send it to the school from where the student left. It is a required form for any transfer student and the recieving school must submit it to the KHSAA.

I know for a fact that the Congleton kid was not released by the officials at Owsley. A hearing was to be scheduled and the parents chose to relocate him to Breathitt instead of a hearing. I do not know what happened to his eligablity at Breathitt. I have also been involved in players transferring away and we released the student to play the next year. So I have personally seen both ways of a transfer being handled.[/QUOTE]

 

 

the students can play the next year after they sit out for a year if ruled inelgible or the KHSAA can rule them eligible if they have a bonafide change in address to another school district.

I think what often happens is a kid transfers, turns in a new address, maybe a relative, maybe rents a place, and if the sending school doesn't challenge weather it's a legitimate move or not, it generally flys by the KHSAA. If the sending school challenges it with KHSAA then an investigation ensues.

I think what often happens is a kid transfers, turns in a new address, maybe a relative, maybe rents a place, and if the sending school doesn't challenge weather it's a legitimate move or not, it generally flys by the KHSAA. If the sending school challenges it with KHSAA then an investigation ensues.

 

I think that is usually the case. A school can't release a student, but they can challenge the ruling.

His parents still live in wolfe county but his grandmother which resides in Owsley County got custody of him. that was the ultimate ruling for him. His grandmother had to get custody of him before he was allowed to play.

 

You are exactly right. And custody had to change prior to the start of the school year. This transfer was totally legitimate!!

Schools do have the option as to whether to oppose a transfer or not. They can fill out a form in opposition and then a hearing is scheduled to determine eligability. Most schools don't oppose for the kids sake but some do. This year Owsley chose to oppose the Congleton kids transfer first to Lee Co.(the county in which he did reside and had for most of his life) then when he went to Breathitt.

 

You obviously do not have an indepth knowledge of KHSAA Bylaws. You should go online ---it's there for all to read.

I agree. Also look at the others who have transferred in. I don't blame Owsley for fighting for thier transfers but remeber it goes both ways. I was hoping the Noble kid would get eligable, because his transfer is for family reasons and he should have been allowed by Breathitt to play. Remember it is the kids who lose a year of high school ball and they can't get it back. Adults should think of the kids in these matters and forget thier personal agendas.

 

It appears to me that the Owsley school officials are not going to provide misinformation to the KHSAA, regardless of the situation. They did not provide false information regarding any of the transfers to Owsley or from Owsley. Therefore, they have an inelgible player--just like Breathitt does.

I agree--the kids are the ones that suffer--and that is a shame.

I know for a fact that the Congleton kid was not released by the officials at Owsley. A hearing was to be scheduled and the parents chose to relocate him to Breathitt instead of a hearing. I do not know what happened to his eligablity at Breathitt. I have also been involved in players transferring away and we released the student to play the next year. So I have personally seen both ways of a transfer being handled.

 

You may think you know for a fact--but your choice of words are not correct. There is no such action as "releasing a kid".You simply place a check mark in the column designated yes or no before the appropriate reason for transfer. When all the truthful answers to the reasons for transfer are "NO"--a student is not going to be declared eligible for the KHSAA. Please view a transfer form on the KHSAA website and you will be much better informed.

I think that is usually the case. A school can't release a student, but they can challenge the ruling.

 

Refreshing to see that someone understands the facts!!