I am tired of kids having to choose between playing for their school and playing on AAU teams or club teams.

There are some but not enough who agree with you. Two years ago a proposal was made that playing on a team outside of the school made you ineligible for HS athletics. It was defeated.

There are some but not enough who agree with you. Two years ago a proposal was made that playing on a team outside of the school made you ineligible for HS athletics. It was defeated.

As it should have been. That rule stated that if an athlete played any sport on any team other than the HS team then that athlete ws ineligible to play any sport for the HS. Extremist to say the least. The problem bball faces is the fact there are dramatically less college scholarships to be had than these other sports. I'm sick of all the rules prohibiting these kids to better themselves. If its a good thing for my kid to play AAU ball in September and the KHSAA says she can't then they are forcing us to make a decision. As things progress the schools will be on the losing end of these decisions. So in that regard who is the KHSAA actually helping? The AAU and club teams thats who.

3 of the girls who play on our aau team also won the state championship and the all A last yr. One girl in particular,to date , has recieved 4 letters from colleges that seen the state tournament and almost 70 from the aau/exposure season.

I watched every game they played in the state championship last yr. and it was a great time, and an AWESOME event. It was very nice and these 3 girls loved it.

I told the girls to make sure every college they talk to , also knows that their high school team won the state tournament. One of the girls told me that not one of the coaches she has talked to knew her high school team won the state. I give them every number to the coaches who call and ask about them. This girl has already talked to well over 30 coaches and not one of them knew her high school won the state championship. So is one exposure tournament at the end of Sept. really that important? You better believe to these young athletes it is, and it is about them. It is pretty sad when these coaches are sending emails to these girls wanting to know where they will be in Sept. and all they can say is our state will not allow us to play in it.

That happens and we will no longer have HS volleyball or soccer in the Commonwealth. The KHSAA know this and won't touch it.

Not true. The KHSAA (which is the collective group of member schools) voted to restrict ALL team sports last year, by more than a 2/3 margin. The Kentucky Board of Education didn't approve it. There shouldn't be a restriction, and through the checks and balances of the regulatory process, there aren't. And its only a matter of time before there aren't restrictions in basketball either.

OK But why shut them down from August until Oct 15th? No one has given any reasoning as to why this is the rule in KY.

This rule actually began more than thirty years ago and was pushed by the local parks departments who didn't want their leagues dominated by high school team players, therefore eliminating the local gym rat from playing. And it has just seemed to hang on.

Not true. The KHSAA (which is the collective group of member schools) voted to restrict ALL team sports last year, by more than a 2/3 margin. The Kentucky Board of Education didn't approve it. There shouldn't be a restriction, and through the checks and balances of the regulatory process, there aren't. And its only a matter of time before there aren't restrictions in basketball either.

We agree there should be no restriction. So why would the KHSAA pass such restrictions by a 2/3 margin? And you say the bball rule is over 30 years old and obviously outdated but yet it remains on the books. The kids playing now don't want to here its a matter of time. It seems the KHSAA fails to realize is its power over these kids dwindles over time as many more oppotunities afford themselves to the athletes other than playing for the local school. If Ky doesn't pay close attention to what is transpiring, the level of HS athletics in KY will drop dramatically as the top athletes will not play for their respective schools. Only a matter of time.

Definitely students who are basketball players. Coaches have been known to "require" things of basketball players that run afoul of their ability to play other sports. That was the protection I was referring to.

 

Some would tell you that vball and soccer still needs that protection (I have had a discussion about this matter with a former KHSAA Board of Control person.) and the ability to allow them to play in the winter even though that is hurting basketball numbers. Not sure I agree with that as basketball is taking a hit with winter vball and soccer.

 

Not words that are popular in this forum but basketball, soccer and volleyball do not compete on a level playing field.

 

 

Everyone needs to wake up and smell the roses. These other two sports being mentioned could care less about the basketball players. V-ball ends and B-ball starts, girls go to bball practice and leave early to make it to the club vball practice. If they miss vball practice they don't play and mom/dad are forking up tons of money for this, therefore, if they are not excused from bball practice they eventually quit playing bball to play vball. Same scenerio w/club soccer, school soccer ends and indoor starts. Unfortunately, kids are forced to choose between one or the other and must concentrate on one sport in order to keep up w/the other good/great players if that is what they want to play in college.

 

This rule stinks. My daughter has been invited to the Blue Chip Basketball Fall Shootout at the end of the month, she can't go, she lives in KY. Worse thing is we just moved and are still waiting to see if she will be eligible to play her Sr yr or not. W/all the football players ruled eligible and the backgrounds on these cases, she better be declared eligible.

By law 8: Student-athletes in football and/or basketball may not participate in outside competition in any organized setting including camps, clinics, scrimmages or games, from the first day of school until after the last game of the season.

 

Let's change this rule!

Instead of "the first day of school", change it to "from October 15th until after the last game of the season."

 

Ask your High School Coach if he/she would support this change.

 

Post the name of the school, the coach’s name, and their answer on this thread. (Tell them you are going to post their answer on Bluegrasspreps.)

 

Let’s see where they stand.

A "new" interpretation from KHSAA on Bylaw 8!! This just out from KHSAA:

 

Case BL-8-8- Are there any exceptions to the participation restrictions for females in fall

basketball exposure events?

 

Due to the fact that current NCAA rules allow for an opportunity within Bylaw 8 for boys’

basketball players with eligibility remaining to attend and participate in activities that are basketball-specific (without the head coach) and a comparable opportunity does not

exist for females due to existing NCAA rules and restrictions, the Commissioner and Board of Control have previously ruled that an exception be allowed. That exception allows

girls’ basketball players with eligibility remaining and having previously participated at any level on a high school team, to travel to and participate in, activities during the

fall NCAA open evaluation period for non-scholastic events. The specific dates for such a period are available through the NCAA web site, and for 2007-2008 are September 28-30.

Look at the KHSAA go! Good job!

 

Good luck to all the girls who will participate in these events.

 

Here's hoping a scholarship or two is secured by attending.

A "new" interpretation from KHSAA on Bylaw 8!! This just out from KHSAA:

 

Case BL-8-8- Are there any exceptions to the participation restrictions for females in fall

basketball exposure events?

 

Due to the fact that current NCAA rules allow for an opportunity within Bylaw 8 for boys’

basketball players with eligibility remaining to attend and participate in activities that are basketball-specific (without the head coach) and a comparable opportunity does not

exist for females due to existing NCAA rules and restrictions, the Commissioner and Board of Control have previously ruled that an exception be allowed. That exception allows

girls’ basketball players with eligibility remaining and having previously participated at any level on a high school team, to travel to and participate in, activities during the

fall NCAA open evaluation period for non-scholastic events. The specific dates for such a period are available through the NCAA web site, and for 2007-2008 are September 28-30.

 

Thanks for sharing the great news 24smom! Also, thanks to the KHSAA for the "reinterpretation" to the rule. I know my daugher appreciates the opportunity.

A "new" interpretation from KHSAA on Bylaw 8!! This just out from KHSAA:

 

Case BL-8-8- Are there any exceptions to the participation restrictions for females in fall

basketball exposure events?

 

Due to the fact that current NCAA rules allow for an opportunity within Bylaw 8 for boys’

basketball players with eligibility remaining to attend and participate in activities that are basketball-specific (without the head coach) and a comparable opportunity does not

exist for females due to existing NCAA rules and restrictions, the Commissioner and Board of Control have previously ruled that an exception be allowed. That exception allows

girls’ basketball players with eligibility remaining and having previously participated at any level on a high school team, to travel to and participate in, activities during the

fall NCAA open evaluation period for non-scholastic events. The specific dates for such a period are available through the NCAA web site, and for 2007-2008 are September 28-30.

Where did you get his information? I checked the KHSAA website and the Commissioner's note and did not see this.

The message was sent to AD's & girls basketball coach's of record at KHSAA via email. I took the new interpretation directly from that email. I verified receipt of the email with our AD & have had someone else just confirm via private message that they checked with KHSAA with a phone call before signing up their gals to play at an event that weekend. KHSAA confirmed this for him yesterday afternoon. I personally for my daughter's sake, always confirm, confirm, confirm. I will also make a call to KHSAA to verify before sending her anywhere, since as you mentioned it is not in print on the website. I am trying to find an event now for that weekend because the initial event she was invited to (which we thought we could not attend until yesterday) has closed the registration window.

 

Here is the excerpt from the email that provides further explanation:

This Case situation was discussed for several months, and is to be published in this year’s Handbook. Due to the printing delays in the

Handbook caused by our rules promulgation process, it is being distributed in this manner to allow the female athletes to immediately take advantage of this one opportunity. The

exception is clearly and restricted solely to the NCAA open weekend, and does not afford an opportunity for either 1) male participation (that window already exists in the spring),

or 2) extended participation by females outside of the defined period in the interpretation. Please contact any member of the executive staff at the KHSAA if you have questions.

The message was sent to AD's & girls basketball coach's of record at KHSAA via email. I took the new interpretation directly from that email. I verified receipt of the email with our AD & have had someone else just confirm via private message that they checked with KHSAA with a phone call before signing up their gals to play at an event that weekend. KHSAA confirmed this for him yesterday afternoon. I personally for my daughter's sake, always confirm, confirm, confirm. I will also make a call to KHSAA to verify before sending her anywhere, since as you mentioned it is not in print on the website. I am trying to find an event now for that weekend because the initial event she was invited to (which we thought we could not attend until yesterday) has closed the registration window.

 

Here is the excerpt from the email that provides further explanation:

This Case situation was discussed for several months, and is to be published in this year’s Handbook. Due to the printing delays in the

Handbook caused by our rules promulgation process, it is being distributed in this manner to allow the female athletes to immediately take advantage of this one opportunity. The

exception is clearly and restricted solely to the NCAA open weekend, and does not afford an opportunity for either 1) male participation (that window already exists in the spring),

or 2) extended participation by females outside of the defined period in the interpretation. Please contact any member of the executive staff at the KHSAA if you have questions.

Thank you for the additional information and the confirming.

Thank you for the additional information and the confirming.

 

No problem. When it comes to eligibility...confirm, confirm & then confirm some more!!