I still don't understand. Are they prohibitted from accepting out of county students or do they choose not to because they have no way to collect the money for those kids, absent a contract?

 

Let me look up the law, and I'll post it.

No, I'm sorry. Total alumni giving. Also, I believe there is some rule about individual gifts over a certain amount (like $5K or more).

I'll take your word for it, but I still don't see what this has to do with sports or influencing prospective athletes.

Alumni giving? NO! NO! and NO! It is no business of anyone except the parties involved. Trinity does disclose the SAT/ACT information for the school as a whole, but not for individual students. Why is that information relevant to the discussion of athletics. With regard to family financial statements, the decisions are made outside the school with no knowledge of athletic participation. This sounds like an attempt to embarass individual families. With regard to the bolded, it is my understanding that if need based financial aid is given to a student athlete, the amount MUST be determined by an outside agency.

At NCC they have an alumuni fund drive every year . In the mailing that comes every year is a brochure listing the names of the alumuni that gave the previous year . It is broken down according to the year they graduated and the level of their donation . It doesn't give specific amounts but enough information is given so you can make a ballpark estimate . That is not kept secret . And I donate every year just to offset some of the tax dollars that I'm forced to pay for our local public school system .

At NCC they have an alumuni fund drive every year . In the mailing that comes every year is a brochure listing the names of the alumuni that gave the previous year . It is broken down according to the year they graduated and the level of their donation . It doesn't give specific amounts but enough information is given so you can make a ballpark estimate .

And Trinity does the same thing. There are also donations from anonymous. As a private institution, if people don't want their names disclosed, they shouldn't be.

OK, here is the law, after a cursory review:

 

KRS 160.010 states that "each county in this state constitutes a county school district," except that in counties where there is an "independent school district," the county school district is that part of a county that does not include the independent school district.

 

Incidentally, independent school districts can lie in more than one county, but have rigid establishment limitations.

 

KRS 159.010 is the compulsory attendance statute. It requires each child between 6 and 16 residing in a particular school district to attend a school in that district. There are exemptions contained in KRS 159.030, most notably 159.030(1)(b), which exempts those same children if they are "enrolled and in regular attendance in a private, parochial, or church regular day school," but ONLY if that school provides the local school district a record of enrollment. In that sense, LBBC's oft-cited contention that a public school district "owns" the children within its district is correct.

 

KRS 159.070 states that "each school district shall constitute a separate attendance district."

 

There are provisions, as we have discussed, for Interlocal Cooperative contracts pursuant to KRS 61, and also for two contiguous school districts to merge, but otherwise, under these laws, a student located in a particular school district must attend that district and that district alone.

And I would put some of the private school kids against public school kids anytime. So what? Great kids exist everywhere. Usually there is (at least) one great family member standing behind them too.

 

Why do so many public school supporters assume private=rich. Supporters of that equation exudes ignorance or blind aggression. You would be shocked at what private schooled kids have to go through in order to get to school in the morning, and then return home after practice in the evenings. Not to mention the Saturday meetings... Can't forget what the parents (heroes) go through in order to support their children (tuition, clothing, books, fees, lunch, rides, etc). Of course there are parents of public school kids that have the same challenges. Just don’t pretend it’s only one way.

 

I do not think private = rich and that is certainly not what I mean by socio-economic stature..but they at least have the means to send them to a private school. You would have to see the kids that I work with to understand what I mean. I know of very few children attending private school that live in shelters or in a gov housing situation.

 

I agree with you on private school against public school, there are great kids everywhere..but I do not think a private education is necessarily superior to a public one. In many counties there is no choice. You are right about the parents of both public and private doing these things there just happen to be consistency in the private schools with the "heroes"

The bolded is somewhat misleading. The most recent national test results have comparable public school children at certain grade levels testing better than their private counterparts. The highest standardized test scores in the state at the high school level are at DuPont Manual.

Let's see

 

Student body hand picked from the best of the best. Many that apply are turned down.

 

Parental involvement a requirement of continued enrollment.

 

Students who do not meet school standards are removed.

 

No set attendance district.

 

Has taken students from outside Jefferson County.

 

Now other then the fact that Manual is subsidised by the state what makes them different then a private school?

 

How do the test scores compare to TYPICAL public schools like say Western, Shawnee or Iroquois, because Manual is anything but typical?

OK, here is the law, after a cursory review:

 

KRS 160.010 states that "each county in this state constitutes a county school district," except that in counties where there is an "independent school district," the county school district is that part of a county that does not include the independent school district.

 

Incidentally, independent school districts can lie in more than one county, but have rigid establishment limitations.

 

KRS 159.010 is the compulsory attendance statute. It requires each child between 6 and 16 residing in a particular school district to attend a school in that district. There are exemptions contained in KRS 159.030, most notably 159.030(1)(b), which exempts those same children if they are "enrolled and in regular attendance in a private, parochial, or church regular day school," but ONLY if that school provides the local school district a record of enrollment. In that sense, LBBC's oft-cited contention that a public school district "owns" the children within its district is correct.

 

KRS 159.070 states that "each school district shall constitute a separate attendance district."

 

There are provisions, as we have discussed, for Interlocal Cooperative contracts pursuant to KRS 61, and also for two contiguous school districts to merge, but otherwise, under these laws, a student located in a particular school district must attend that district and that district alone.

Then how is it that:

 

Then how is it that...

 

1. Manual is able to admit students from outside Jefferson County? I know their website says that they don't but the Manual people that post here have said that there were students from other counties there.
   
2. I saw the mailing list of HS student athletes at a certain Jefferson County school and several of them had Taylorsville mailing addresses? Taylorsville is in Shelby County.
   

Let's see

 

Student body hand picked from the best of the best. Many that apply are turned down.

 

Parental involvement a requirement of continued enrollment.

 

Students who do not meet school standards are removed.

 

No set attendance district.

 

Has taken students from outside Jefferson County.

 

Now other then the fact that Manual is subsidised by the state what makes them different then a private school?

 

How do the test scores compare to TYPICAL public schools like say Western, Shawnee or Iroquois, because Manual is anything but typical?

 

Haven't you just made the "typical" public schools' case for them?

Then how is it that:

 

Then how is it that...

1. Manual is able to admit students from outside Jefferson County? I know their website says that they don't but the Manual people that post here have said that there were students from other counties there.
   
2. I saw the mailing list of HS student athletes at a certain Jefferson County school and several of them had Taylorsville mailing addresses? Taylorsville is in Shelby County.

 

Taylorsville is in Spencer County. I don't know the answer to your questions. Perhaps JCPS has a contiguous schools agreement pursuant to KRS 159.070. Curious why they would sign one with Spencer, but not with Oldham.

Haven't you just made the "typical" public schools' case for them?

No, what I tried to do is illustrate that there are differences among public schools and that some enjoy great success because of operations that are very similar to those of private schools, yet we don't hear (not yet anyway;) ) wailing and gnashing of teeth over how good a select few public schools have it over most others.

Taylorsville is in Spencer County. I don't know the answer to your questions. Perhaps JCPS has a contiguous schools agreement pursuant to KRS 159.070. Curious why they would sign one with Spencer, but not with Oldham.

 

Excuse my lack of geographical knowlege (there's that public school education at work again:D ). Jefferson my have such an agreement with Oldham, I don't know. In any case the evidence is there that some public schools do in fact take students from outside their counties and that was the point I was trying to make.

Then how is it that:

 

Then how is it that...

 

1. Manual is able to admit students from outside Jefferson County? I know their website says that they don't but the Manual people that post here have said that there were students from other counties there.
   
2. I saw the mailing list of HS student athletes at a certain Jefferson County school and several of them had Taylorsville mailing addresses? Taylorsville is in Shelby County.
   

I don't know about the students you are talking about but I do know in my area,and probably all over the state,ones address does not always indicate what county you live in.Many people have an address that is from a city in another county and go to school in the county they live in which is different.:thumb:

Many people have an address that is from a city in another county and go to school in the county they live in which is different.:thumb:

 

Oh no. That can't be.

Nelson County and Bardstown have a reciprocal contract. But Nelson County will not get, for instance, any of the Hardin County students over the line in Fort Knox, much as that would be nice when 3,500 families move in down there in March '08. We are still limited to Nelson County. Bethlehem got Billy Jackson, Darvell Wilson, and Blake Stanley, from the Ft. Knox area. That is their leading rusher in '02, '03, '04, '05, '06, and presumably, '07.

 

I don't knock it, its just the way it is.

 

I don't see why Nelson County can't get those kids as well? Would they have to sign a reciprocal contract with the county that Ft. Knox is in?