This is the best explanation I could get on ADA and this is why those of you posting that public schools and independent schools can go outside the boundaries are wrong.

 

If a student goes outside the district there must be a contract between the two districts. Districts try to keep these even (you got three of mine and I get three of yours). This way no ADA changes hands and no tuition has to be charged.

 

Most of these kids are employees kids going to the school where the parent works. It is an unwritten rule that you release the ADA on these kids if you don't have a balance.

 

If an unbalance exists then the receiving school releases the ADA to the school that the student resides in. Then (supposedly) the receiving school charges tuition to equal the lost ADA (around 4,000). Most public school districts work very hard to not allow students to attend another public school. They do not have to release any student if they choose not to. And that only makes sense. Especially in Northern Ky. with so many school districts you have many employees children attending out of district.

 

If for some reason the host district is unaware that a student is living in their district and attending another public school then the ADA goes to the school they are attending usually using a false address.

 

So my point in all of this is private schools have a larger base to draw from. Example: Bellevue has a 1 mile square radius to draw students. NCC has an area 10 times that to draw from. Yet they have been in the same football district for years. Is this NCC's fault????? NO of course not. You take kids from wherever you are allowed.

 

 

So those of you with private school students have to at least see the publics school position on areas. However....public school proponents need to see their is just as much abuse of the system when it is a public school taking another public schools student with phony addresses or just plain keeping quiet about where a student lives.

Actually, the Board of Control stopped that one. It never got to the Board of Education.

 

The Board of Education thinks differently, and is constituted somehwat differently, than it was 6 months ago.

 

 

Can you elaborate on that a little?

Do you really believe that "Most of these kids are employees kids going to the school where the parent works."??

 

I dare say that is not the case at many schools. Highlands, for example, has a lot of out of district students of alums that basically want their kids to go to the school where they went. Nothing wrong with that. Heck you could probably find about 20 of them on here.

 

Since Kenton County has open enrollment should Dixie be banished to play with Trinity and St.X?

 

Beechwood probably has a smaller square mile radius to draw from than Bellevue. Is that fair to Beechwood? Seems to have worked out okay for their football team or else they must employ an awful large number of teachers who have sons that are really good at football.

Okay you totally missed the point. I am giving you a professional explanation and you return with sarcasm......and no Beechwood area is slightly larger and that was not my point. I was using Bellevue as an example of a small radius. Also.....you pointed out two public schools that have several non district students in them and as you pointed out alumni find a way to get them in. That is my point with the entire problem. It is not just a private school problem. There are also public schools taking advantage of....circumventing....whatever semantic word you want to use.....the system. Therefore to fix the problem it will take enforcement of rules not banishment of the private schools.

I think you have more than 1 or 2 schools in NKY that are not as "private" friendly as the privates like to think.

 

The coaches feel one way but their schools voted differently on Prop 20. There are numerous NKY coaches in different sports that would love to see privates gone to another division and allowing their public school teams to compete against teams like themselves.

 

Publics pretty much dominate NKY. If there are such coaches, than it is due to their inability to get their athletes to play for them. Publics had 2A all to themselves in NKY and the eastern part of the state. 4A, all public. 1A was dominated by Beechwood, and 3A for the most part Highlands. In the other sports, it's been a mix match of Private and Public, but the end results of regional champs has been proportionate to the number of publics and privates. Therefore, those coaches belly aching in NKY need to look into the mirror and use the work ethic that the successful publics are using to achieve success.

Okay you totally missed the point. I am giving you a professional explanation and you return with sarcasm......and no Beechwood area is slightly larger and that was not my point. I was using Bellevue as an example of a small radius. Also.....you pointed out two public schools that have several non district students in them and as you pointed out alumni find a way to get them in. That is my point with the entire problem. It is not just a private school problem. There are also public schools taking advantage of....circumventing....whatever semantic word you want to use.....the system. Therefore to fix the problem it will take enforcement of rules not banishment of the private schools.

 

Agreed, however, Sears doesn't see it that way. By the way, which private school is taking students from Somerset??? Why is he leading the charge and not someone from Lexington or Louisville? It isn't his ability to argue logically that won him pole position.

And I can tell you for a 100% fact that in most (key word most not ALL) public schools the out of district students (what few they have) are employees kids. I will also tell you that in the public schools in Northern Ky .with the exception of a couple the districts have less than 5 out of district students. I am not on here to point fingers so you must know what some of the schools you are talking about are doing I for one only know the legal public school contracts end of things.

Okay you totally missed the point. I am giving you a professional explanation and you return with sarcasm......and no Beechwood area is slightly larger and that was not my point. I was using Bellevue as an example of a small radius. Also.....you pointed out two public schools that have several non district students in them and as you pointed out alumni find a way to get them in. That is my point with the entire problem. It is not just a private school problem. There are also public schools taking advantage of....circumventing....whatever semantic word you want to use.....the system. Therefore to fix the problem it will take enforcement of rules not banishment of the private schools.

 

 

The alums of those public schools (like Highlands or Beechwood) aren't "finding a way to get them in" because they don't have to. All they have to do is sign them up. And as The Guru has often said "Don't impose restrictions on yourself and then complain when other don't do the same."

Can you elaborate on that a little?

 

The Board has just recently unanimously forced out its Chairman and positioned another, and has given some strict directions to its KHSAA investigative committee. The Board took a lot of flak over the botched Commissioner hiring, and its antennae are finely attuned to giving people the axe right now.

And I can tell you for a 100% fact that in most (key word most not ALL) public schools the out of district students (what few they have) are employees kids. I will also tell you that in the public schools in Northern Ky .with the exception of a couple the districts have less than 5 out of district students. I am not on here to point fingers so you must know what some of the schools you are talking about are doing I for one only know the legal public school contracts end of things.

 

I clearly think you are way off with your numbers. I can name you two from just people who I work with whose children attend one public school but live in another school district. Both pay a small added tuition so there child can attend the school, and one is in middle school the other is in grade school....and BTW both come from different and go to different school systems. It must happen far more often than you say, if just at my small place of employment, I can name you two children.....

The Board has just recently unanimously forced out its Chairman and positioned another, and has given some strict directions to its KHSAA investigative committee. The Board took a lot of flak over the botched Commissioner hiring, and its antennae are finely attuned to giving people the axe right now.

 

Sorry, I'm not very good at reading between the lines sometimes. How do you think these changes will affect the Board's views on the ongoing public/private debate?

Sorry, I'm not very good at reading between the lines sometimes. How do you think these changes will affect the Board's views on the ongoing public/private debate?

 

I should have been more direct. In my opinion, were a properly vetted separation vote to come back before the Board, I think this group would view it in terms of pure procedure, and vote it through.

Old guy let me state again I am familiar only with the legal public school contracts and those numbers on legal contracts. Again your point shows the fallacy of the system.

I should have been more direct. In my opinion, were a properly vetted separation vote to come back before the Board, I think this group would view it in terms of pure procedure, and vote it through.

 

Yeah, which is why I say that the private school proponents should have taken the Prop 2 deal. I believe now that nothing is on the table, the split will come back up.

I should have been more direct. In my opinion, were a properly vetted separation vote to come back before the Board, I think this group would view it in terms of pure procedure, and vote it through.

Then I guess we have to keep up our lobbying.