theguru Posted May 20, 2007 Posted May 20, 2007 They believe Noah gathered two of every living creature - which, due to evidence of their existence, must have included dinosaurs - onto his ark and escaped the biblical Great Flood, which formed the Grand Canyon. Most of their beliefs are counter to conventional science, making the ministry a lightning rod for criticism from atheists, scientists and even some Christians who believe the Bible is man's account of God's work and not necessarily literal. The Creation Museum that opens in Northern Kentucky next weekend is built on this belief: God created the heavens and the Earth and all living things in six consecutive 24-hour days, 6,000 years ago. Link to several stories at the Enquirer.
theguru Posted May 20, 2007 Author Posted May 20, 2007 Will you visit The Creation Museum? Why or why not?
Birdsfan Posted May 20, 2007 Posted May 20, 2007 ...and even some Christians who believe the Bible is man's account of God's work and not necessarily literal.This is why I probably won't be visiting the museum.
ladiesbballcoach Posted May 20, 2007 Posted May 20, 2007 I will and will be interesting to see what discussions it spurs with my children.
Habib Posted May 20, 2007 Posted May 20, 2007 Will you visit The Creation Museum? Why or why not? Can't say I will be.
Hearsay Posted May 20, 2007 Posted May 20, 2007 I will probably not visit the museum, but that has less to do with substantive content than it does there are more attractive venues in NKy while I am visiting. I will say that most evangelical Christians do not believe the world is only 6,000 years old, and most do not believe that Noah had 2 of every creature on the planet when he loaded up the Ark. A "literal" reading of the Bible does not require those conclusions.
Ram Posted May 20, 2007 Posted May 20, 2007 Most of their beliefs are counter to conventional science, making the ministry a lightning rod for criticism from atheists, scientists and even some Christians who believe the Bible is man's account of God's work and not necessarily literal. 2Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is God breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. I believe this passage illustrates that we are to believe that all scripture is from God and not open to man's interpretation. On topic: I wouldn't mind visiting the museum, I would like to see how they portray creation and the Bible.
theguru Posted May 20, 2007 Author Posted May 20, 2007 To answer my own question, I plan on visiting with my family. My reasoning is two fold, one, I think it will make for great family discussion, and two, for the entertainment and educational value.
acemona Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 2Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is God breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. I believe this passage illustrates that we are to believe that all scripture is from God and not open to man's interpretation. On topic: I wouldn't mind visiting the museum, I would like to see how they portray creation and the Bible. Yet, men decided what was to be included and what was to be excluded. Why is Josephus not included, and many other letters and historical writings. What about the source "Q" which most believe is the origin of the synoptic gospels. I will not be visiting.
ladiesbballcoach Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 Yet, men decided what was to be included and what was to be excluded. Why is Josephus not included, and many other letters and historical writings. What about the source "Q" which most believe is the origin of the synoptic gospels. I will not be visiting. I do not believe men made those decisions. I believe the Holy Spirit made those decisions and used men as the vehicles.
acemona Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 I do not believe men made those decisions. I believe the Holy Spirit made those decisions and used men as the vehicles. Why do you believe that? There is no biblical basis for that belief. It does not say that anywhere in the scripture, and by the way, when Timothy wrote he didn't consider his writing scripture, so the only thing Timothy could have meant by scripture was what was known at the time, and that isn't even the entire "Old Testament".
acemona Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 2Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is God breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. I believe this passage illustrates that we are to believe that all scripture is from God and not open to man's interpretation. On topic: I wouldn't mind visiting the museum, I would like to see how they portray creation and the Bible. Where does it talk about science or history. All I see is "God breathed for training in righteousness".
ladiesbballcoach Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 Why do you believe that? There is no biblical basis for that belief. It does not say that anywhere in the scripture, and by the way, when Timothy wrote he didn't consider his writing scripture, so the only thing Timothy could have meant by scripture was what was known at the time, and that isn't even the entire "Old Testament". Unless the Holy Spirit knew of what was and would be written. As you like to point out and correctly so, don't place God in a box. I believe that God knew what books and what parts of the Bible and through what he wanted revealed to man. And so he knew even before the author's were born that they would write something that later he would want to be in His Bible. While I don't know of specific Scriptures, I know of Scriptures that indicate will not lead us astray. That he will not tempt us. I think He knew that there needed to be a record of the love of His Son to be passed on. And believe he would look to protect that record. So the Holy Spirit is the guiding voice on that. As far as you other post, did you read right over the word "teaching, correcting and rebuking," to get to "training in righteousness?" I know you don't believe Christians should correct or rebuke others but it is right there.
Ram Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 Where does it talk about science or history. All I see is "God breathed for training in righteousness". Timothy was instructing Christians on how to run the church, and how to win people to Christ. If you think man put the Bible together you are missing the point. Timothy might not have known that his letters and accounts would become gospel, but God did. This is why it says all scripture is God Breathed, not Timothy breathed. As for history, most everyone, including atheist agree that the Bible is an accurate account of history - they only disagree on Jesus being the son of God. As for Sceince: the Bible has water displacement, several comparative studies on proportions, chemistry, genealogy, herbatology, and many other scientific principles.
Jim Schue Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 Timothy was instructing Christians on how to run the church, and how to win people to Christ. If you think man put the Bible together you are missing the point. Timothy might not have known that his letters and accounts would become gospel, but God did. This is why it says all scripture is God Breathed, not Timothy breathed. As for history, most everyone, including atheist agree that the Bible is an accurate account of history - they only disagree on Jesus being the son of God. As for Sceince: the Bible has water displacement, several comparative studies on proportions, chemistry, genealogy, herbatology, and many other scientific principles. Huh?
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