May 18, 200719 yr I wonder if it'll get answered? :sssh: I will. True CO willing to do non combatant service, I'm OK with. Registering for college was a deferment. Still subject to service after graduation and OK with me. Daddy pulling strings is of course wrong unless you are referring to alternate service such as the National Guard or Reserve. I suspect this is in reference to the current POTUS. I disagree with using political power to avoid the draft but have no problem with joining the Guard or Reserve. It's still service and necessary. None of the above command the respect that I have for those who currently serve without reservation. I just realized I was quoting a post that was quoting a post that was quoting a post. I hope everyone can remember all that was said. :creepy:
May 18, 200719 yr Personally, I think every 18 year old should be subject to some kind of government service. Either military or somethng along the lines of the Peace Corps work. I believe too, that every young man one way or another should serve atleast two years for his country. There is nothing wrong with that, and gives them a sense of respect, maturity and duty for their country.
May 18, 200719 yr An excellent, excellent question! :thumb: No one should be exempt wether they claimed Allah tells me I can't, or I am a senators son, or I ran off to attend college in England.
May 18, 200719 yr I believe too, that every young man one way or another should serve atleast two years for his country. There is nothing wrong with that, and gives them a sense of respect, maturity and duty for their country. What about young women? Why should they not serve?
May 18, 200719 yr No one should be exempt wether they claimed Allah tells me I can't, or I am a senators son, or I ran off to attend college in England. And I like to note I remember reading a story of a missionary serving somewhere near the Rainforest area in South America, there was no phone were he was serving, he actually had to be physically located, he packed his stuff and left his mission for his call to duty to Iraq. - That is commendable
May 18, 200719 yr I will. True CO willing to do non combatant service, I'm OK with. And, I agreed that this seemed a reasonable enough compromise. Registering for college was a deferment. Still subject to service after graduation and OK with me. A deferment that many with money took advantage of, in the days when college was not an option for most poor or lower-middle class young men. Daddy pulling strings is of course wrong unless you are referring to alternate service such as the National Guard or Reserve. I suspect this is in reference to the current POTUS. I disagree with using political power to avoid the draft but have no problem with joining the Guard or Reserve. It's still service and necessary. I'm not singling out anyone in particular. However, this is yet another area where kids with connections and/or money had the advantage over hundreds of thousands of kids of poor or lower middle class means. None of the above command the respect that I have for those who currently serve without reservation. I just realized I was quoting a post that was quoting a post that was quoting a post. I hope everyone can remember all that was said. :creepy: They'll figure it out.
May 18, 200719 yr What about young women? Why should they not serve? I have no problem with women serving if that is what they want to do. And if my daughter choose to enlist, I would support her.
May 18, 200719 yr I have no problem with women serving if that is what they want to do. And if my daughter choose to enlist, I would support her. Why should young women be exempt from mandator service, either military or Peace Corps-ish? If you think men should have no choice, why do you think women should have a choice?
May 18, 200719 yr Why should young women be exempt from mandator service, either military or Peace Corps-ish? If you think men should have no choice, why do you think women should have a choice? You are trying a catch 20/20 with me, cause one way answered you wanna blast me and the other way you still wanna blast me. So don't try to trick me with your questions. If you wanna discuss war/the draft and Ali's reason that is one thing, but if you wanna start something over who should be made and not made is another. If I answer yes that women should be made, then you throw your women's rights at me, and if I say they should be home nurturing children and creating a home enviroment cooking dinner for their hard working husbands, you still wanna come at me with the activist lines. I won't subject to that game
May 18, 200719 yr An interesting fact 2/3 of the soldiers who served in were volunteers. 2/3 of the soldiers who served in WWII were drafted. http://www.vietnam-war.info/myths/
May 18, 200719 yr You are trying a catch 20/20 with me, cause one way answered you wanna blast me and the other way you still wanna blast me. So don't try to trick me with your questions. If you wanna discuss war/the draft and Ali's reason that is one thing, but if you wanna start something over who should be made and not made is another. If I answer yes that women should be made, then you throw your women's rights at me, and if I say they should be home nurturing children and creating a home enviroment cooking dinner for their hard working husbands, you still wanna come at me with the activist lines. I won't subject to that game I'm not trying to get you in a Catch 22. If you read enough of my posts, I'm not a "women's rights" sort of person. I believe that if you require compulsory service for men, then you need to do so for women as well. I have both a son and a daughter. I sincerely want to know why you don't think young women should be subject to the same conditions as young men. It's a straightforward answer. I'll assume you haven't read much of my opinions in the past, and not take offense to the way you tried to label me as a manipulative questioner.
May 18, 200719 yr I'll assume you haven't read much of my opinions in the past, and not take offense to the way you tried to label me as a manipulative questioner. Whatever you want us to believe Ms. Steinem.
May 18, 200719 yr What about young women? Why should they not serve?Because they're too hysterical and just not cut out for it, the majority that is.
May 18, 200719 yr I'm not trying to get you in a Catch 22. If you read enough of my posts, I'm not a "women's rights" sort of person. I believe that if you require compulsory service for men, then you need to do so for women as well. I have both a son and a daughter. I sincerely want to know why you don't think young women should be subject to the same conditions as young men. It's a straightforward answer. I'll assume you haven't read much of my opinions in the past, and not take offense to the way you tried to label me as a manipulative questioner. Look at how you have come back at my responses when women were brought up. If that wasn't trick questions then I don't know what is? Our country goes out to protect women, and children. One of man's role is to protect. See if I say well women shouldn't be made to grab a machine gun and run to the front lines. Then you are considered a pig, even though you have their best interests in mind. So if a woman wants to serve - fine - I have no problem with that. But it is a man's role to serve and protect in times of war.
May 18, 200719 yr Look at how you have come back at my responses when women were brought up. If that wasn't trick questions then I don't know what is? Our country goes out to protect women, and children. One of man's role is to protect. See if I say well women shouldn't be made to grab a machine gun and run to the front lines. Then you are considered a pig, even though you have their best interests in mind. So if a woman wants to serve - fine - I have no problem with that. But it is a man's role to serve and protect in times of war. God bless you....:lol: Still trying to put words in my mouth. I am a firm believer that if a man should be required to serve, women should as well. I agree that not all are cut out for combat. But that applies to men as well. If the choice is offered and each could decide for themselves which choice was best for them, then why would we limit our resources of personnel to men only, unless a woman wanted to?
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