He's being reactive rather than proactive. I refuse to praise him on this, I'll just say about time...

 

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That's a PERFECT summation of how I feel - I agree with you 100%. :thumb:

 

(and considering your avatar, that's amazing...! )

I was forced to bring her out because of a post that someone made;)

He might want to be on every tv station doing that but if they media won't give him the live mike to do it, it hurts his effort in doing it.

I can't believe that if Al or Jesse either one wanted a live mike that one wouldn't be available to them. They've spent years yakking about everything they "don't like" to the cameras and for them not to now tells me that they have accomplished what the set out to do.

Certain recording artists have a very long history of using extremely offensive language, much more offensive than what resulted in Imus being fired. However, it wasn't until Sharpton was called on his selective outrage that Sharpton made the lyrics of recording artists a priority. Given the omnipresence of such lyrics, Sharpton cannot reasonably claim that he was unaware of them or their offensive nature. I therefore conclude that he consciously chose not to make those lyrics a priority previous to the Imus controversy. I therefore suspect that the only reason that their lyrics are a priority now is that Sharpton recognizes that the hypocrisy of attacking Imus but not attacking the recording artists is indefensible. Sharpton should be applauded for being less of a hypocrite but he would deserve greater applause if he were more consistent in his outrage from the beginning. If Sharpton continues his crusade against offensive lyrics with as much enthusiasm as some of his previous crusades he'll earn my respect on this issue. But until then, I question whether his heart is really in this fight.

 

 

 

P.S. I'd like to see Sharpton lead a protest march to an arena just prior to a concert by a recording artist known for his offensive lyrics.

Certain recording artists have a very long history of using extremely offensive language, much more offensive than what resulted in Imus being fired. However, it wasn't until Sharpton was called on his selective outrage that Sharpton made the lyrics of recording artists a priority. Given the omnipresence of such lyrics, Sharpton cannot reasonably claim that he was unaware of them or their offensive nature. I therefore conclude that he consciously chose not to make those lyrics a priority previous to the Imus controversy. I therefore suspect that the only reason that their lyrics are a priority now is that Sharpton recognizes that the hypocrisy of attacking Imus but not attacking the recording artists is indefensible. Sharpton should be applauded for being less of a hypocrite but he would deserve greater applause if he were more consistent in his outrage from the beginning. If Sharpton continues his crusade against offensive lyrics with as much enthusiasm as some of his previous crusades he'll earn my respect on this issue. But until then, I question whether his heart is really in this fight.

 

 

 

P.S. I'd like to see Sharpton lead a protest march to an arena just prior to a concert by a recording artist known for his offensive lyrics.

Shooter, not only are you right, but if "Reverend" Al has the wit to see it, this could be his most defining moment ever.

 

Right now, much of America holds him in disdain, for the afore-mentioned reasons. Imagine what might happen if he took your advice and truly embraced this cause, and did, indeed, lead protests to "clean up" his own community.

 

Even someone like me, if I saw him use his leadership skills/gifts for good, would salute him, and even come to respect him (IF I see consistency & not hypocracy).

 

If that happened, Al Sharpton would "own" America: black & white, right & left. We are looking for good, well-meaning leaders; who use their talents for the good of others.

I was forced to bring her out because of a post that someone made;)

What did someone say about the Hildebeast? :devil:

What did someone say about the Hildebeast? :devil:

Oh yea like you really are concerned....you just want to know so you can quote it on my next christmas card:lol: :lol: Actually it wasn't anything said about Hillary, it was a shot at Bill and we all know how I feel about Bill.

There's no sincerity, so nope!

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Certain recording artists have a very long history of using extremely offensive language, much more offensive than what resulted in Imus being fired. However, it wasn't until Sharpton was called on his selective outrage that Sharpton made the lyrics of recording artists a priority. Given the omnipresence of such lyrics, Sharpton cannot reasonably claim that he was unaware of them or their offensive nature. I therefore conclude that he consciously chose not to make those lyrics a priority previous to the Imus controversy. I therefore suspect that the only reason that their lyrics are a priority now is that Sharpton recognizes that the hypocrisy of attacking Imus but not attacking the recording artists is indefensible. Sharpton should be applauded for being less of a hypocrite but he would deserve greater applause if he were more consistent in his outrage from the beginning. If Sharpton continues his crusade against offensive lyrics with as much enthusiasm as some of his previous crusades he'll earn my respect on this issue. But until then, I question whether his heart is really in this fight.

 

 

 

P.S. I'd like to see Sharpton lead a protest march to an arena just prior to a concert by a recording artist known for his offensive lyrics.

I saw an interview with Sharpton during the IMUS debacle and he indicated at that time that he had already been meeting with record producers about such things.

 

He indicated that he had asked record producers to not sign contracts of artists that are going to have such lyrics. That there are artists who don't use such lyrics but the record producers don't sign and promote them.

 

The artists with the offensive lyrics sell and that is what they are there for, to sell records.

 

And he pointed out that many of those making that decision are not members of the black community and don't have the concerns of what that type of artist's and what they are glorifying is doing to the black community.

 

AGAIN, this was an interview at the beginning of the IMUS debacle and he indicated that he had been working for the past year or two with the music industry.

I saw an interview with Sharpton during the IMUS debacle and he indicated at that time that he had already been meeting with record producers about such things.

 

He indicated that he had asked record producers to not sign contracts of artists that are going to have such lyrics. That there are artists who don't use such lyrics but the record producers don't sign and promote them.

 

The artists with the offensive lyrics sell and that is what they are there for, to sell records.

 

And he pointed out that many of those making that decision are not members of the black community and don't have the concerns of what that type of artist's and what they are glorifying is doing to the black community.

 

AGAIN, this was an interview at the beginning of the IMUS debacle and he indicated that he had been working for the past year or two with the music industry.

 

I don't doubt that he has had some conversations. I just doubt that it's been a high priority. If it had been a high priority it wouldn't have taken the Imus controversy for it to become known.

I don't doubt that he has had some conversations. I just doubt that it's been a high priority. If it had been a high priority it wouldn't have taken the Imus controversy for it to become known.

But is that Sharpton's fault or the media's? Is it not being a high priority simply a perception given by the media by not making daily broadcasts about it?

But is that Sharpton's fault or the media's? Is it not being a high priority simply a perception given by the media by not making daily broadcasts about it?

Me and you right on today.:thumb:

I will not applaud him at all. I will not b/c I don't think lyrics in music have anything to do with anything.

 

Don Imus said something that some found offensive. However, he did not, IMO deserve to lose his job. If the people he offended listen to this same music then they are hypocritical and IMO ignorant.

 

The only problem I had with this and the only reason I brought up lyrics, at the time, is to point out that you can not chastize someone for saying something when others who say the same things get no attention whatsoever. I do not think that they should get attention for such things, but I also thought Don Imus should not have gotten any grief for it as well.

 

They were words, get over it!!

It's Sharpton's fault for not pursuing a fight against the offensive lyrics pervasive in today's music with the same zeal he attacks others. If he wanted to draw more attention to it, he most certainly could.

I will not applaud him at all. I will not b/c I don't think lyrics in music have anything to do with anything.

 

Don Imus said something that some found offensive. However, he did not, IMO deserve to lose his job. If the people he offended listen to this same music then they are hypocritical and IMO ignorant.

 

The only problem I had with this and the only reason I brought up lyrics, at the time, is to point out that you can not chastize someone for saying something when others who say the same things get no attention whatsoever. I do not think that they should get attention for such things, but I also thought Don Imus should not have gotten any grief for it as well.

 

They were words, get over it!!

Will you agree that we have a significant part of our youth population that is not being raised by their parents with the zeal that they need to be raised?

 

If yes, than are we, as a society, to just not worry about what they are pouring into their minds?

 

I guarantee you that as a society, you will have to address the fall out of the huge numbers of our population not being raised by their parents at some point and time.

 

I think the increasing numbers involved in the juvenile system bears this out.