May 13, 200719 yr WHy isn't SHarpton questioning Obama's muslim up-bringing? Was it a radical up-bringing? Aren't there questions or concerns about getting to the bottom of knowing that? If you questions ones faith, then you should question all of them
May 14, 200719 yr You are using the wrong words to describe their stance that changed in 1978. THey did not find blacks to be inferior. (trust me on this one I have studied this) I have studied the religion and people really misundertand and receive the wrong facts. Some of my best friends are LDS. I can't understand why if a person is Mormon, Catholic, Baptist or ... would matter. I can understand being concerned if the person was athiest- Our country was founded under God. And it is the athiests that were responsible for removing important things like prayer from school- removing "under god" from the pledge, etc... Mormons teachings and basic principals are not radical. That is my point. I am not particullary taking up for Mitt Romney's faith. It is just that why only does his get brought up? Mormon congregations are made up of black, white, hispanic, russians, portugese, etc.. And they are a world wide church, there are no seperate break offs ... It is okay for someone to question the items brought up, but someone has to set the facts straight that there is no segregation in the Mormon Church. They all break bread together. How about saying something like WOW those Mormons are the first people on the scene of disasters, distrubting the goods that their members donate money to for Humanitarian Aid... Wow wouldn't we love to have a President that believes in Charity for all Human Mankind!? Why doesn't that get brought up? No need to convince me or others on here on the validity of the Mormon religion. I'm not in the group that is concerned. While you say they do not consider blacks to be inferior, I'm guessing blacks might say you're getting into semantics. If the sole reason a person was not allowed to be a priest was because of their skin color, those folks would beg to differ from your opinion. The point I'm trying to make has nothing to do with the Mormon religion. It has everything to do with a black person being concerned about such a religion . Al and others may come to find out that their fears are unfounded but until that point, they have a right to ask. In Utopia, one's religion would not matter. When you get there, call us.
May 14, 200719 yr WHy isn't SHarpton questioning Obama's muslim up-bringing? Was it a radical up-bringing? Aren't there questions or concerns about getting to the bottom of knowing that? If you questions ones faith, then you should question all of them As I've said previously, all is fair in coming to understand the candidate's background. I'm GUESSING that Al and others are comfortable with Obama's past. I would have no problem with a person asking Obama for his views on the Muslim faith. Absolutely a fair question.
May 14, 200719 yr No. It was definitely aimed at Romney being a Mormon. What happened prior to that comment to make you sure it was aimed at Mitt?
May 14, 200719 yr As I've said previously, all is fair in coming to understand the candidate's background. I'm GUESSING that Al and others are comfortable with Obama's past. I would have no problem with a person asking Obama for his views on the Muslim faith. Absolutely a fair question. But what if someone like say Sean Hannity said that people that really believe in God would make sure he didn't get elected? Would Hannity (or anyone else of a white, conservative tendency) get the pass that you seem to be giving Sharpton?
May 14, 200719 yr Author What happened prior to that comment to make you sure it was aimed at Mitt? In a later interview with the AP, Sharpton denied questioning Romney's belief in God and suggested the Romney camp was trying to stir up a controversy because of their political differences. "What I said was that we would defeat him, meaning as a Republican," Sharpton said. "A Mormon, by definition, believes in God. They don't believe in God the way I do, but by definition, they believe in God." I think that's called backpedaling. He all but said that it was directed at Romney. We just took it the wrong way.
May 14, 200719 yr So you're blaming our founding fathers? Are we still the wealthiest nation nation in the world and the currently acting Hegemon? You brought the founding fathers up, not me. And I doubt they'd be thrilled to see how some of the fruits of their labor turned out. But that's irrelevant. We were the wealthiest nation in the world in the '50s, when the man was the overwhelming driving force in the economy, and moms stayed at home or taught. What's changed? People are buying more crap they don't need, and their kids suffer for it when parents substitute gadgets and other distraction aids for actual parenting.
May 14, 200719 yr You brought the founding fathers up, not me. And I doubt they'd be thrilled to see how some of the fruits of their labor turned out. But that's irrelevant. We were the wealthiest nation in the world in the '50s, when the man was the overwhelming driving force in the economy, and moms stayed at home or taught. What's changed? People are buying more crap they don't need, and their kids suffer for it when parents substitute gadgets and other distraction aids for actual parenting. So you're in favor of women not working?
May 14, 200719 yr So you're in favor of women not working? I didn't say that. I'm just saying it would be better for society if people sacrificed a bit and spent more time with their kids, whether that be sacrifices on the part of men as well as women.
May 14, 200719 yr I didn't say that. I'm just saying it would be better for society if people sacrificed a bit and spent more time with their kids, whether that be sacrifices on the part of men as well as women. Gotcha....:thumb: I completely agree with that then...
May 14, 200719 yr In a later interview with the AP, Sharpton denied questioning Romney's belief in God and suggested the Romney camp was trying to stir up a controversy because of their political differences. "What I said was that we would defeat him, meaning as a Republican," Sharpton said. "A Mormon, by definition, believes in God. They don't believe in God the way I do, but by definition, they believe in God." I think that's called backpedaling. He all but said that it was directed at Romney. We just took it the wrong way. thank you... And why would the Romney camp need to stir controversy with Al Sharpton? He just once again got called out on some of the ridiculous stuff he comes up with .... More and more everyday different ones are calling him out- and that is exactly what he needs!
May 14, 200719 yr But what if someone like say Sean Hannity said that people that really believe in God would make sure he didn't get elected? Would Hannity (or anyone else of a white, conservative tendency) get the pass that you seem to be giving Sharpton? Disclaimer: I am making an assumption that Rev Al's response was aimed towards the atheist Hitchens and not at the Mormons. Yes, I'd give him the same "pass" based on the disclaimer above.
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