April 27, 200719 yr So then recruits would have 10, 15, 20 cell phones? How about this for a novel idea. Why don't the coaches leave them alone for a while and only contact them when the rules say thay can instead of trying to find loopholes in the rules? Nope once the player gets a cell phone from one school, he could just give that number to the other schools who want it! And well whoever that first school was that gave him the cell phone, can surely still pay for it, and would show how much they would want him if they are still willing to pay for the text even if other schools are texting him on it as well... Also there was no breaking the rules, text messaging was a new advancment in todays society so you use what you can use that can help. Also these students will be getting a free education and getting to play a sport they love while getting this free education, so I think it is plenty worth it having people talk to you all the time...
April 27, 200719 yr I would say you limit the times you can do it. During school hours and in the late hours would obviously have to be a no-no. Make it to where you can only do it during the week from say 4pm to 10pm in that recruits time zone. Then you open it up a little more on the weekends, but still set a time frame. You can try to police this with phone records and with the aforementioned way of a recruit reporting it as well. It's a thought.
April 27, 200719 yr So I guess I'll have to quit text-messaging Coach Saban. I still can call the football office.
April 27, 200719 yr Nope once the player gets a cell phone from one school, he could just give that number to the other schools who want it! And well whoever that first school was that gave him the cell phone, can surely still pay for it, and would show how much they would want him if they are still willing to pay for the text even if other schools are texting him on it as well... Welcome to probation!
April 27, 200719 yr So I guess I'll have to quit text-messaging Coach Saban. I still can call the football office. Maybe send him a letter through the mail?
April 27, 200719 yr Nope once the player gets a cell phone from one school, he could just give that number to the other schools who want it! And well whoever that first school was that gave him the cell phone, can surely still pay for it, and would show how much they would want him if they are still willing to pay for the text even if other schools are texting him on it as well... Also there was no breaking the rules, text messaging was a new advancment in todays society so you use what you can use that can help. Also these students will be getting a free education and getting to play a sport they love while getting this free education, so I think it is plenty worth it having people talk to you all the time... So you think that oh lets say school K is going to give a cell phone to a kid and have no problem if a coach from school L uses that phone to contact the same kid. :lol: I didn't say that there were rules broken, what I implied was that coaches found a way to get around the no contact rule by using a form of comunication that wasn't specifically addressed in the rules and not surprisingly went way overboard and made this ban necessary. Broken no, bent out of shape, yes. How many contacts a day should be permitted?
April 27, 200719 yr Welcome to probation! If you read my original post, I talked about how the NCAA should be the ones who come up with a rule like that, so no there wouldn't be probation then...
April 27, 200719 yr So you think that oh lets say school K is going to give a cell phone to a kid and have no problem if a coach from school L uses that phone to contact the same kid. :lol: I didn't say that there were rules broken, what I implied was that coaches found a way to get around the no contact rule by using a form of comunication that wasn't specifically addressed in the rules and not surprisingly went way overboard and made this ban necessary. Broken no, bent out of shape, yes. How many contacts a day should be permitted? Yep basically, because well then that would be better than not having any text at all with them....
April 27, 200719 yr Wow I would love to see that if for no other reason then to see the coaches fighting over who would make second contact with a kid. I'll re-ask a question posed earlier. How about just MAILING information to recruits?
April 27, 200719 yr If you read my original post, I talked about how the NCAA should be the ones who come up with a rule like that, so no there wouldn't be probation then... I read the original post. I just can't see the NCAA developing any rules like that because it would be impossible to enforce. Would the schools be fighting over who could give a kid the nicest phone? Would UK be mad because the messages they send to Recruit-A are going to a phone purchased by Duke? Who pays for the phone? What if the kid loses it? Sells it?
April 27, 200719 yr Wow I would love to see that if for no other reason then to see the coaches fighting over who would make second contact with a kid. I'll re-ask a question posed earlier. How about just MAILING information to recruits? Its just not about letting recruits know information. Text really allows the coaches to get to know the recruits better, so they have a better idea of what kind of person they are bringing into their program...
April 27, 200719 yr Wow I would love to see that if for no other reason then to see the coaches fighting over who would make second contact with a kid. I'll re-ask a question posed earlier. How about just MAILING information to recruits? Mailing? What's that?:lol: Read this quote from Greg Robinson at Syracuse, in an article by Ivan Maisel, following the text message ban: "It's funny how with a handwritten letter, you get [a recruit's] attention," he said. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=2850623
April 27, 200719 yr Its just not about letting recruits know information. Text really allows the coaches to get to know the recruits better, so they have a better idea of what kind of person they are bringing into their program... If you really believe that then I want to sell you a bridge in New York. How does texting 50 times a day a kid allow a coach to get to know them better? Maybe, just maybe the reason coaches are using it so much is so they can exert further influence a kid in his/her decision making process. I'm sorry, maybe I'm old and cynical but I find very little that a college coach does in the whole recruiting process to be altruistic. In fact I would say that altruism is about the furthest thing from a coaches mind when recruiting a player.
April 27, 200719 yr If you really believe that then I want to sell you a bridge in New York. How does texting 50 times a day a kid allow a coach to get to know them better? Maybe, just maybe the reason coaches are using it so much is so they can exert further influence a kid in his/her decision making process. I'm sorry, maybe I'm old and cynical but I find very little that a college coach does in the whole recruiting process to be altruistic. In fact I would say that altruism is about the furthest thing from a coaches mind when recruiting a player. I never said that was the main reason why they want text, but that is a little reason why....
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