I am not missing your point. I am saying that the largest part of T's "impact players" over the years are Catholic Grade School products. If you can name me five kids, year in and year out that played at T that were "impact players" over the past 20 years that were not from the CGSS...I will completely agree with you.

I don't know the names of all of Trinity's players. I can guarentee you that there are more than five kids on their roster every year that did not grow up in Catholic Schools. Another name, because I know him, that pops up is Phil Edge. I don't think that he came all the way through the catholic school system, and I think he was their staring tailback on the 94 team. You would know names better than I do. Every kid that starts is an impact player for your football team, it doesn't have to be someone that made all state.

Your missing my point. It is all fine that Trinity gives these kids a good experience. However, my point is that there are plenty of kids that attend, and play football for, Trinity High School that did not grow up in the Catholic School System and have a huge impact on the field. To claim that these players have little impact is ridiculous. On the other note, I think Mcbroom had 320 yds recieving in that game. I know there was only one Mcbroom. I was replying to the claim that Trinity doesn't get huge impact players like Bush. My point is that I have never seen a Trinity team play that didn't have an impact player that had not grown up in the Catholic school system.

 

Trinity won state in 03, give me a name? 05, likewise a name? How about 06? I think you will find that Trinity would (and is) dominant with or without the occasional kid that decides to go to Trinity after not attending a Catholic grade school. The fact is that it isn't the big factor that your trying to make it. FYI, I get your point. I just think you are incorrect.

 

For the record, Tay had 300 yards to Daniel's 200 in that game. They both scored 3 TDs. But Daniel had the longest TD (85 yards).

I don't know the names of all of Trinity's players. I can guarentee you that there are more than five kids on their roster every year that did not grow up in Catholic Schools. Another name, because I know him, that pops up is Phil Edge. I don't think that he came all the way through the catholic school system, and I think he was their staring tailback on the 94 team. You would know names better than I do. Every kid that starts is an impact player for your football team, it doesn't have to be someone that made all state.

 

 

You don't know the names of all of Trinity's players. You don't know where all of Trinity's players attended grade school. You don't know if they went to public schools but played for their parish team in the CSAA. You don't know what the parents were thinking when they chose to put their sons in Trinity. You know nothing about literally hundreds of kids who've put in blood, sweat and tears to the Trinity program over the years. But, you know the name of one guy, 13 years ago, and another who played about 5 years ago. You don't know why either of those players came to Trinity.

 

I wonder how many kids that have attended Catholic grade schools over the years have wound up at public high schools? I wonder how many kids over the years have attended public schools, but played football at the gradeschool and middle school level for their parish? I wonder how many of the kids who attended public schools but played for their parishes wound up at Trinity? How many wound up in public schools? How many kids parents decided that paying for a Catholic education for 9 years (K-8) would be a little too much, but that by saving that money, they could afford a Trinity or X? How many paid the tuition for 9 years for their kids, but decided they couldn't swing the high school tuition?

 

For pete's sake. Even if you name a handful, it's NOTHING in the overall scheme of things. Take those alleged non-Catholic school attending impact players away and you STILL have successful programs.

 

The whole thing about ALL of this is that not one word would be uttered about any unfair advantages if the Trinity's and X's of the world would "know their place" and not try to be successful or improve all areas of the experience they offer their kids.

:thumb: Once again RM hits one out of the ballpark.:thumb:

You don't know the names of all of Trinity's players. You don't know where all of Trinity's players attended grade school. You don't know if they went to public schools but played for their parish team in the CSAA. You don't know what the parents were thinking when they chose to put their sons in Trinity. You know nothing about literally hundreds of kids who've put in blood, sweat and tears to the Trinity program over the years. But, you know the name of one guy, 13 years ago, and another who played about 5 years ago. You don't know why either of those players came to Trinity.

 

I wonder how many kids that have attended Catholic grade schools over the years have wound up at public high schools? I wonder how many kids over the years have attended public schools, but played football at the gradeschool and middle school level for their parish? I wonder how many of the kids who attended public schools but played for their parishes wound up at Trinity? How many wound up in public schools? How many kids parents decided that paying for a Catholic education for 9 years (K-8) would be a little too much, but that by saving that money, they could afford a Trinity or X? How many paid the tuition for 9 years for their kids, but decided they couldn't swing the high school tuition?

 

For pete's sake. Even if you name a handful, it's NOTHING in the overall scheme of things. Take those alleged non-Catholic school attending impact players away and you STILL have successful programs.

 

The whole thing about ALL of this is that not one word would be uttered about any unfair advantages if the Trinity's and X's of the world would "know their place" and not try to be successful or improve all areas of the experience they offer their kids.

 

 

Thanks sista...that was going to be my next post! :D

I suspect that, if JBS continues to have success, its public neighbors will have to decide whether to work harder or to whine to KHSAA. My money will be bet on the latter since that is the route universally taken in other parts of the commonwealth.

Trinity won state in 03, give me a name? 05, likewise a name? How about 06? I think you will find that Trinity would (and is) dominant with or without the occasional kid that decides to go to Trinity after not attending a Catholic grade school. The fact is that it isn't the big factor that your trying to make it. FYI, I get your point. I just think you are incorrect.

 

For the record, Tay had 300 yards to Daniel's 200 in that game. They both scored 3 TDs. But Daniel had the longest TD (85 yards).

You know the teams. Name me a Trinity state championship team that was made up of entirely catholics. There is none, there has likely never been one at any other catholic school either. It doesn't happen. Every private school had a population that carries diversity past their central religeon. I can't believe you all are trying to claim that these players don't make a difference. Mcbroom was the fastest player on the field in the 2001 and 2001 state finals. Look at how few out and ups were completed after he left the field with injury in 2001. BTW, the 85 yard pass Daniel caught, if I am not mistaken, was a fake pump on the bubble to Mcbroom that the entire defense converged on, leaving Daniel standing 30 yards down the field waiting on the ball. Of course, maybe my memory is off. Likely not nearly as off as the fans of a team that forget what an impact has been made in their program due to out of area and out of Catholic players.

You know the teams. Name me a Trinity state championship team that was made up of entirely catholics. There is none, there has likely never been one at any other catholic school either. It doesn't happen. Every private school had a population that carries diversity past their central religeon. I can't believe you all are trying to claim that these players don't make a difference. Mcbroom was the fastest player on the field in the 2001 and 2001 state finals. Look at how few out and ups were completed after he left the field with injury in 2001. BTW, the 85 yard pass Daniel caught, if I am not mistaken, was a fake pump on the bubble to Mcbroom that the entire defense converged on, leaving Daniel standing 30 yards down the field waiting on the ball. Of course, maybe my memory is off. Likely not nearly as off as the fans of a team that forget what an impact has been made in their program due to out of area and out of Catholic players.

 

Nobody has said that ANY player doesn't make a difference but you are saying that MANY of these key players did not attend CGS. You are wrong.

I cannot believe that June Buchanan takes those good students and athletes away from those small mountain schools. They stole success from the other public schools. They surely must have recruited. They have been recruiting for many decades. First on mule, then on horseback, and now by reputation, strong discipline, strong academics, and a strong community. How dare they win the region and get to the sweet sixteen.

 

They may have been off the public radar as the annual homecoming victory in the past, but just stay tuned to this board and after this years successes there will be no doubt that they to will be a private punching bag for the publics.

Nobody has said that ANY player doesn't make a difference but you are saying that MANY of these key players did not attend CGS. You are wrong.

You right. There is a difference between many, and a very important select few.

You right. There is a difference between many, and a very important select few.

 

See now I am all confused because I thought in football it was all about the numbers? A select few is basketball!! :D

See now I am all confused because I thought in football it was all about the numbers? A select few is basketball!! :D

OK, Ill give you that one.

OK, Ill give you that one.

 

:D :D

You know the teams. Name me a Trinity state championship team that was made up of entirely catholics. There is none, there has likely never been one at any other catholic school either. It doesn't happen. Every private school had a population that carries diversity past their central religeon. I can't believe you all are trying to claim that these players don't make a difference. Mcbroom was the fastest player on the field in the 2001 and 2001 state finals. Look at how few out and ups were completed after he left the field with injury in 2001. BTW, the 85 yard pass Daniel caught, if I am not mistaken, was a fake pump on the bubble to Mcbroom that the entire defense converged on, leaving Daniel standing 30 yards down the field waiting on the ball. Of course, maybe my memory is off. Likely not nearly as off as the fans of a team that forget what an impact has been made in their program due to out of area and out of Catholic players.

Make up your mind. You start out talking about "impact players" and now you are reduced to "name me a championship team that was made up of entirely Catholics". FYI, there are plenty of kids that attend Catholic schools that aren't Catholic. You should admit that your argument is weaker than you thought at first. You seemed to be able to whip out McBroom and Edge with little difficulty, the reason why others are harder to come by is because it doesn't happen as often as you would like to think. I guess you will have to find a new reason to hate the Rocks.

You know the teams. Name me a Trinity state championship team that was made up of entirely catholics. There is none, there has likely never been one at any other catholic school either. It doesn't happen. Every private school had a population that carries diversity past their central religeon. I can't believe you all are trying to claim that these players don't make a difference. Mcbroom was the fastest player on the field in the 2001 and 2001 state finals. Look at how few out and ups were completed after he left the field with injury in 2001. BTW, the 85 yard pass Daniel caught, if I am not mistaken, was a fake pump on the bubble to Mcbroom that the entire defense converged on, leaving Daniel standing 30 yards down the field waiting on the ball. Of course, maybe my memory is off. Likely not nearly as off as the fans of a team that forget what an impact has been made in their program due to out of area and out of Catholic players.

 

No football team at Trinity has been made up entirely of Catholics. Does the team reflect the school? It is my understanding that Trinity is 50%-60% Catholic as a school, so it is not surprising that the team also has non-Catholics.