Country Boy:

 

I disagree. I think parents that dont have the forsite to keep their kids from starting school early , should be allowed to correct the mistake in elementary school or middle school by holding them back. I think parents should be able to make decisions that give their children the best chance at succeding.

 

 

Monte Calloway ( from Southwestern) averaged 24 points as a senior. Monte could have been a sophomore that year. A sophomore averaging 24 points a game would have gotten alot more recognition than a senior. In fact he would have probably been a Mr. Basketball candidate by his senior year, If his parents would have held him back.

 

I cannot think of one single draw back to holding kids back.

 

That is the situation that I am facing. I enrolled my son early due to the fact that my wife and I both work and my parents kept my son until he was in school. I did not want them to alter their life to be babysitters (however, with the passing of my dad I wish my son had that extra year with him). Now, my son was 10 years old when he started in the sixth grade. We are going to hold him back to allow for the extra year of maturity. Parents know their kids better than others. Some kids that are my sons age would be mature enough to handle middle school. That is not the situation with my son. Also, a side note, is that my son does participate in sports and is only an average player. He will help his team next year but will not be an impact player. The bottom line is that even if a rule was passed to make him ineligible, he would stay back because academics are more important than sports.

The reason for this question is because I am aware of an eighth grader who was an honor student and was held back any way for athletic reasons. is this fair?

To my understanding:

In years past students could repeat 8th grade with basically no penalty. However the rules have recently changed. Now if a kid wants to hold back, he must do it before he enters the 8th grade. The reasoning behind this is that the KHSAA doesn't have any jurisdiction over middle school. However after a student finishes his last day of 8th grade he is considered a ninth grader and the KHSAA has jurisdiction over them. In fact student athletes only have 4 years of eligibility after completing the 8th grade. So if a student completes 8th grade and then repeats the 8th grade, he would only have 3 more years of eligibility left.(thus being ineligible for their senior year)This is the reason so many middle school students are now holding back in the7th grade. Thir are some loop holes ( students that go on homebound) to get around this though.

 

Aaron Watts from McCreary Central is an "old" freshman, that has already scored over 1000 points. I think he has definately benefited from being an older kid that will graduate at the age of 19.

 

Cole Draughn from Pulaski Co. graduated at the age of 19 and was a force in both football and baseball his senior year. The extra year made a big difference in his career.

 

I could go on and on.

That is the situation that I am facing. I enrolled my son early due to the fact that my wife and I both work and my parents kept my son until he was in school. I did not want them to alter their life to be babysitters (however, with the passing of my dad I wish my son had that extra year with him). Now, my son was 10 years old when he started in the sixth grade. We are going to hold him back to allow for the extra year of maturity. Parents know their kids better than others. Some kids that are my sons age would be mature enough to handle middle school. That is not the situation with my son. Also, a side note, is that my son does participate in sports and is only an average player. He will help his team next year but will not be an impact player. The bottom line is that even if a rule was passed to make him ineligible, he would stay back because academics are more important than sports.

 

 

My son took after his mother and was so smart that he skipped 2nd grade. He entered 7th grade this year as an 11 year old. He isn't interested in sports very much so we will send him on. However if he was interested in basketball, he wouldn't be physically mature enough to even make the 7th grade team. He could probably make the 6th grade team and be a below average player. But if you put him on a 5th grade team he could be a pretty darn good player on that level. If he had a desire to play, as a parent I would hold him back twice to give him the best opportunatity I could for him to achieve success.

My son has the August 1 birthday. He is a 9 year old 3rd grader and I am so thankful we kept him back from starting kindergarten. He will turn 18 at the beginning of his senior year and I think that is a perfect age, considering both physical and emotional maturity.

I have an October birthday and was 17 when I graduated. I swore that I would not let that happen to my kids.

 

Son number 1 will be 18 years and 9 months when he graduates.

Son number 2 will be 19 years and a few weeks when he graduates.

Son number 3 will be 18 years and 5 months when he graduates.

Daughter will be 18 years and 6 months when she graduates.

 

I never liked going to school.....my kids love school. All four of them excel academically, socially and athletically. Isn't that the most important thing? IMHO, too many people start kids too early to school but we each have to do what is best for our own.

I have an October birthday and was 17 when I graduated. I swore that I would not let that happen to my kids.

 

Son number 1 will be 18 years and 9 months when he graduates.

Son number 2 will be 19 years and a few weeks when he graduates.

Son number 3 will be 18 years and 5 months when he graduates.

Daughter will be 18 years and 6 months when she graduates.

 

I never liked going to school.....my kids love school. All four of them excel academically, socially and athletically. Isn't that the most important thing? IMHO, too many people start kids too early to school but we each have to do what is best for our own.

 

I totally agree. My son has a September birthday but I didn't send him to kindergarten until the following year. I prefer him to be one of the oldest as opposed to one of the youngest in his class. This will help his social skills and if it helps him sports-wise, then that is just icing on the cake.

I would have to disagree with all of you. I attended Lloyd back in 80-84. I was actually held back my junior year, for the purpose of moving from CA and not having the educational background. But, I was told that I would not be able to play sports my senior year, but, I was able to play both junior years. And it was not due to age either.

To my understanding:

In years past students could repeat 8th grade with basically no penalty. However the rules have recently changed. Now if a kid wants to hold back, he must do it before he enters the 8th grade. The reasoning behind this is that the KHSAA doesn't have any jurisdiction over middle school. However after a student finishes his last day of 8th grade he is considered a ninth grader and the KHSAA has jurisdiction over them. In fact student athletes only have 4 years of eligibility after completing the 8th grade. So if a student completes 8th grade and then repeats the 8th grade, he would only have 3 more years of eligibility left.(thus being ineligible for their senior year)This is the reason so many middle school students are now holding back in the7th grade. Thir are some loop holes ( students that go on homebound) to get around this though.

 

Aaron Watts from McCreary Central is an "old" freshman, that has already scored over 1000 points. I think he has definately benefited from being an older kid that will graduate at the age of 19.

 

Cole Draughn from Pulaski Co. graduated at the age of 19 and was a force in both football and baseball his senior year. The extra year made a big difference in his career.

 

I could go on and on.

 

 

Our middle school league ran into this situation this year. A kid was held back in 7th grade and played two years in a row on the same team. There needs to be some regulation of this in middle school.

So back to the list.....any others? What about all of these underclassman at JBS and Elliot Co. True they may be in Frosh and Soph classes but agewise are they supposed to be a grade higher?

Good question. Anyone from elliot Co out there? Just out of curiosity, are those sophs all pretty much the right age or are they a little older? Whatever the case, they can play

I totally agree. My son has a September birthday but I didn't send him to kindergarten until the following year. I prefer him to be one of the oldest as opposed to one of the youngest in his class. This will help his social skills and if it helps him sports-wise, then that is just icing on the cake.

 

That was exactly the case with me and while I think I would have been successful either way, the extra year really helped in many ways.

Good question. Anyone from elliot Co out there? Just out of curiosity, are those sophs all pretty much the right age or are they a little older? Whatever the case, they can play

I don't know what you mean by "right age" but none of 'em are walking their kids to school yet... :lol:

 

They'll all be eligible to play high school ball as seniors. That makes 'em the right age in my rule book.

I would have to disagree with all of you. I attended Lloyd back in 80-84. I was actually held back my junior year, for the purpose of moving from CA and not having the educational background. But, I was told that I would not be able to play sports my senior year, but, I was able to play both junior years. And it was not due to age either.

 

 

 

You got away with it until now.

Lloyd could have had to forfeit all those games in 1984.

You got away with it until now.

Lloyd could have had to forfeit all those games in 1984.

HDE, we had a kid when I played football at EHS that graduated in 1975. He showed up for summer football practice the following summer. When we questioned him about it he said the coach and principal asked him to give his deploma back and play one more year. They promised they would give it back and get him a good job the day after football season. He attended school and played football for us until the end of the season and never showed up at school again. He got a job on the railroad.

Holding kids back before Kindergarten is one thing but holdign them back as 7th graders especially when they are good students is clearly stating you want an athletic advantage for your son or daughter. If I even thought of doing that to my 6th grade son who has an early April birthday and a younger kid in his grade, he would tell me to hit he highway. He would miss his friends and wouldnt want to be bored with the same things he learned this year.

HDE, we had a kid when I played football at EHS that graduated in 1975. He showed up for summer football practice the following summer. When we questioned him about it he said the coach and principal asked him to give his deploma back and play one more year. They promised they would give it back and get him a good job the day after football season. He attended school and played football for us until the end of the season and never showed up at school again. He got a job on the railroad.

 

 

There were some unusual things that went on back then. The Glasgow incident is the most infamous.